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bespoke radio for the masses headline

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edition july 8 1947.

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the army air force's has announced that

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a flying bist has been found and is now

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in the possession of the army

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if the game is rigged change the game

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i occasionally think how quickly our

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if we were facing an alien threat from

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church on the game changer radio

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network and kgra the global radio

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i need your help to get to the year

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you are listening to fate to black with

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jimmy judge on the game changer network

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bespoke radio

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today is wednesday march 2nd

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61 days into the new year only 304 days

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yep man so much has happened

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we're on march 2nd

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what a crazy year

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we are live from a bunker somewhere in

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the middle of nowhere a total

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undisclosed location but it is beautiful

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it is i would like to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world all

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across the united states

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hither and tether to and fro back and

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changer and annex networks racehobbs i

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jimmy church what is cracking everybody

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i cannot wait for tonight's show

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because tonight we welcome two

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two very special guests

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tony and sheree rathman join us for a

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full night of ghost hunting

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uh we've got a lot of stuff uh i've got

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uh some fresh evps from tony and sheree

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uh we'll be listening to those got a

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bunch too so

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that'll be a little bit later and then

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is another fader night with open lines

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all night long

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and that is tomorrow

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okay all right where am i at i am going

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let everybody know if you live in sedona

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uh be great to see you um i'm gonna do a

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uh at the conference saturday night

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uh saturday afternoon saturday night

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and uh i don't have any agenda i'm just

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not hosting i'm not working

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uh that friday night is tied up but

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i'll let everybody know also

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uh coming up is disclosure fest and

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watching all around the world okay

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born happy born on earth day is that is

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didn't miss that is or

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is that disclosure man i don't know

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that's david tweeting out stuff to

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confuse me right in the middle of the

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as planned

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for this friday march 4th unless the

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company meets new demands and that

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rocket out to the launch pad at the

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used for military purposes and

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that the uk government remove its

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investment in the company

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what i'm saying

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public charging stations in russia

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have been hacked

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denouncing russian president vladimir

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putin the screens at the charging

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stations have messages

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a little you know green lcd screen you

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know he's you know like on the gas pump

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there's other charging stations about

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yay big and it says

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right which translates to glory to

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the attacks forced tesla screens across

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russia also to display messages

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there you go i don't know how many

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teslas are in russia

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but uh i doubt they're for sale there

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anymore anyway jack sweeney

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the florida teen that's a new you know

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it's always florida man now it's the

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florida teen

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who tracks elon musk's private jet

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online on twitter has a new target

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russian oligarchs and billionaires

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jack who rejected musk five thousand

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dollar offer to delete his twitter

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account and i talked about that last

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recently launched two new automated

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following russia's invasion of ukraine

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the two profiles already have nearly 300

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000 followers and provide live updates

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of the private jets movements along with

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right now the accounts track more than

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40 planes and helicopters

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russian oligarchs

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ace the cargo ship

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carrying cars and suvs from brands

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lamborghini

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has now sunk i talked about this last

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week when it was first announced it had

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caught fire february 16th

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the felicity ace had been carrying

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nearly 4 000 vehicles from various

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volkswagen group brands valued at about

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million dollars it has sunk let's say no

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environmental damage there's nothing

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left on the ship everything burned up

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and uh there you go it was at the time

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it that it sunk it was being towed

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all right

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a crescent-shaped

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crater

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in north east china

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now holds the record as the largest

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impact crater on earth that formed in

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the last 100 000 years

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it's called the

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land crater and it measures about 1.15

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miles across and likely formed about 46

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000 years ago based on radiocarbon

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dating of charcoal and organic lake

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sediments from the site

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the meteor crater in arizona

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previously held the record for the

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largest impact crater less than a

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thousand thousand years old

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and it's about 49 000 years old and

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measures three quarters

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of a mile in diameter

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but they're both about the same age

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isn't that strange

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what was going on 50 000 years ago on

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planet earth

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right impact craters like that just

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raining down from the sky so anyway here

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we go let's get this show cracking happy

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birthday to today

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007 daniel craig

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53 years old he plays a pretty good

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double 07. i got to give him that and

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the new one

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i can't even remember the name of it

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it's pretty good

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john bon jovi

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today

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is 59.

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remember how good looking john bon jovi

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was 1984 85 remember that

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he looks 110 today jazz guitars larry

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carlton today is 74. drummer hunt sales

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is 68 him and his brother man his

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brother's bass player amazing amazing

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todd rundgren iggy pop david bowie tin

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machine hunt sales today is 68

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and cold plays chris martin

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is 45.

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our dead guy's birthday today is karen

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carpenter

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1950 to 1983 died at the age of 32.

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karen was a singer

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she was a drummer who along with her

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brother richard

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was one half

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of the carpenters

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she had a three octave vocal range and

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is considered as one of the greatest

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singers

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on february 4th 1983 karen was scheduled

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to find uh sign final papers making her

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divorce

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official

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shortly after waking up on that day she

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collapsed in her bedroom at her parents

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house in downey california paramedics

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found her heart beating once every 10

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seconds

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she was pronounced dead at downey

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community hospital at 9 51 a.m and that

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was a sad day

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happy birthday karen

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on this day in history otd 1972

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the pioneer 10

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the world's first outer planetary probe

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is launched from cape canaveral florida

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on a mission to jupiter

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on this day in 1972 fader fact at the

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age of 17

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steven spielberg wrote and directed his

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first independent film called firelight

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with his dad's movie camera

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that would later inspire

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close encounters of the third kind

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and that

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is your fader fact i only brought that

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up because we talked about it like all

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week on the show close encounters almost

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watched it last night man i got all

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wrapped up in this new tv series called

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guardians of justice have you guys peep

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guardians of justice it's pretty good

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it's pretty good

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going to leave that right there you got

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to watch it

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to believe what's going on it's pretty

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cool though all right

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uh so tonight though uh definitely uh

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close encounters are the third kind i

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just feel it

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i feel it i feel like going back

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and uh

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the other day i was gonna watch close

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encounters today's wednesday i think it

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was monday night

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and uh

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uh what was going on monday oh jordan

354
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ziff was here so that kind of tied

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things up

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and then i decided to go old school i

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can't remember what it was now

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i

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and uh oh oh oh

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you're not gonna believe yes

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i wa i was going to watch close

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encounters of the third kind

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i ended up watching

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starship troopers

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and for some reason

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they lined up next to each other or i

367
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had selected

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close encounters right and then i see

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below it you know they and customers

370
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also watched right you know below it so

371
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i scroll in there with starship troopers

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it was the first choice

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i was like oh man i'm going starship

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troopers

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oh man i forgot uh

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i forgot how good that movie was okay

377
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all right uh where am i at tonight tony

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and sheree rathman join us

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it's a full night of ghost hunting and

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uh it's gonna be a great show because

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i've got a bunch of uh new evps that

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tony and cherie sent me so we're gonna

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be listening to those and discussing

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them and talking about ghost hunting and

385
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and what ghosts are we're going to be

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doing all of that tonight uh tomorrow

387
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night's another fader night with open

388
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lines all night long now let me hit this

389
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river moon coffee

390
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rivermoonwellness.com

391
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all right

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um

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fade to black blend

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so

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i'm sure that most of you have noticed

396
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by now i have been rotating

397
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uh microphones uh

398
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you know like every three days not every

399
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day like every three days and this is

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like day number two with this one maybe

401
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three

402
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uh this is the short and i've been

403
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rotating them through and then going

404
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back and listening

405
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uh to see which one

406
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you know i like the best

407
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and i'm going to continue to do that but

408
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if you guys

409
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have noticed anything or if you feel

410
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that one sounds i mean to you to the

411
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audience because that's what matters

412
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uh let me know um

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and uh

414
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and i'm going to i've got two more mics

415
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that uh

416
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i'm gonna continue to test for a total

417
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six

418
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i might do a shootout

419
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i might uh

420
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do a a shootout shootout and and and

421
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make a video of that

422
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uh you don't get an opportunity to do

423
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this in a a real honest work environment

424
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this isn't you know somebody just you

425
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know throwing up microphones and talking

426
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into it and going you know this this one

427
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sounds pretty good this one sounds

428
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pretty good no i actually use these for

429
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a job

430
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and and i think it's very important and

431
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there you go because

432
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um you know sometimes i'll use a mic for

433
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a year or two and you just kind of get

434
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used to it

435
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um

436
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and and then i go out there in the in

437
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the world and i use other microphones

438
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and and they said man i'm like man maybe

439
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i should change i don't know

440
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so i just got just got a fire under my

441
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butt uh a couple of weeks ago and

442
00:23:36,870 --> 00:23:35,360
decided to rotate this through so that's

443
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what's going on and

444
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you know and if it if there's a night

445
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where it just is wrong let me know

446
00:23:47,669 --> 00:23:44,480
let me know okay all right where am i at

447
00:23:49,190 --> 00:23:47,679
where am i at ghosts

448
00:23:51,430 --> 00:23:49,200
ghosts

449
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all right

450
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i mean sure

451
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ghost

452
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we've known about them for thousands of

453
00:24:05,029 --> 00:24:03,350
reports and stories about them have been

454
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around and is

455
00:24:16,549 --> 00:24:11,510
for as long as

456
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let's just be honest right okay so

457
00:24:20,549 --> 00:24:17,760
today

458
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i think that

459
00:24:23,750 --> 00:24:22,559
we can all agree well at least most of

460
00:24:25,430 --> 00:24:23,760
us

461
00:24:27,990 --> 00:24:25,440
you can't get everybody on the same page

462
00:24:29,830 --> 00:24:28,000
but but i think that most of us uh can

463
00:24:32,950 --> 00:24:29,840
pretty much say that

464
00:24:35,350 --> 00:24:32,960
there's something going on

465
00:24:38,230 --> 00:24:35,360
but just like anything else there are so

466
00:24:40,630 --> 00:24:38,240
many layers and possibilities it can't

467
00:24:42,070 --> 00:24:40,640
be just one thing

468
00:24:43,269 --> 00:24:42,080
you know just can't be one thing to the

469
00:24:45,669 --> 00:24:43,279
phenomenon

470
00:24:49,590 --> 00:24:45,679
you know that answers everything

471
00:24:51,110 --> 00:24:49,600
can't be it's just there's too much

472
00:24:53,190 --> 00:24:51,120
the one thing that

473
00:24:56,149 --> 00:24:53,200
we didn't have

474
00:24:58,549 --> 00:24:56,159
a thousand or a hundred years ago

475
00:25:00,230 --> 00:24:58,559
was science and technology the kind that

476
00:25:01,909 --> 00:25:00,240
we have today we had science and

477
00:25:04,630 --> 00:25:01,919
technology

478
00:25:07,350 --> 00:25:04,640
back then but that was campfires

479
00:25:09,830 --> 00:25:07,360
and bloodletting all right

480
00:25:12,230 --> 00:25:09,840
that was our science and technology

481
00:25:14,789 --> 00:25:12,240
but but today we have the goods you know

482
00:25:16,470 --> 00:25:14,799
we've got all sorts of cameras

483
00:25:18,870 --> 00:25:16,480
anything that you can think of

484
00:25:21,430 --> 00:25:18,880
video still whatever

485
00:25:22,950 --> 00:25:21,440
and uh looking at different frequencies

486
00:25:24,789 --> 00:25:22,960
and heat signatures we've got that we've

487
00:25:27,269 --> 00:25:24,799
got audio recording

488
00:25:29,669 --> 00:25:27,279
any kind of audio recording

489
00:25:30,870 --> 00:25:29,679
and and microphones and and things we've

490
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got

491
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meters and testing equipment

492
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and of course we even have computers and

493
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software

494
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and all of this stuff can be used to

495
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detect to find and to measure

496
00:25:48,230 --> 00:25:45,840
what may be going on and then of course

497
00:25:50,549 --> 00:25:48,240
we have modern physics

498
00:25:52,470 --> 00:25:50,559
now the ability to combine all of this

499
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gear and knowledge hasn't brought the

500
00:25:57,750 --> 00:25:55,600
definitive proof no it has not

501
00:25:59,830 --> 00:25:57,760
we're closer than ever before that's

502
00:26:01,190 --> 00:25:59,840
that's for sure but but one thing it

503
00:26:02,549 --> 00:26:01,200
hasn't done

504
00:26:03,430 --> 00:26:02,559
is shown us

505
00:26:07,750 --> 00:26:03,440
that

506
00:26:10,630 --> 00:26:07,760
there isn't anything going on

507
00:26:11,909 --> 00:26:10,640
right that's just our minds playing

508
00:26:15,110 --> 00:26:11,919
tricks on us

509
00:26:16,390 --> 00:26:15,120
no it hasn't shown us that either

510
00:26:19,669 --> 00:26:16,400
listen

511
00:26:24,950 --> 00:26:19,679
everybody knows

512
00:26:26,710 --> 00:26:24,960
that i've moved into a new home

513
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and and yes

514
00:26:31,350 --> 00:26:28,880
things have been going on here since

515
00:26:33,669 --> 00:26:31,360
i've first you know got the keys to this

516
00:26:37,350 --> 00:26:33,679
place

517
00:26:40,950 --> 00:26:37,360
most of the activity is slowed down

518
00:26:43,430 --> 00:26:40,960
okay the stuff that i've talked about

519
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and it's also something that i'm i'm

520
00:26:47,590 --> 00:26:45,679
kind of bummed about

521
00:26:51,750 --> 00:26:47,600
because it sure was fun when you know

522
00:26:58,710 --> 00:26:55,590
but there are two things two

523
00:27:01,029 --> 00:26:58,720
that still go on that i have never

524
00:27:03,750 --> 00:27:01,039
talked about

525
00:27:07,350 --> 00:27:03,760
right until now

526
00:27:10,789 --> 00:27:07,360
and uh i'm gonna discuss

527
00:27:11,990 --> 00:27:10,799
uh this tonight with uh tony and cherie

528
00:27:15,269 --> 00:27:12,000
um

529
00:27:17,669 --> 00:27:15,279
and maybe uh i can i can get some

530
00:27:19,350 --> 00:27:17,679
answers and if i get answers that means

531
00:27:21,350 --> 00:27:19,360
you get answers

532
00:27:22,630 --> 00:27:21,360
right because we're all in this journey

533
00:27:26,710 --> 00:27:22,640
together

534
00:27:30,549 --> 00:27:28,549
especially for some of you old-timers

535
00:27:33,909 --> 00:27:30,559
with fade to black i know

536
00:27:35,510 --> 00:27:33,919
that you've heard me say many times over

537
00:27:36,549 --> 00:27:35,520
the years going back to the beginning of

538
00:27:38,789 --> 00:27:36,559
the show

539
00:27:41,029 --> 00:27:38,799
um

540
00:27:42,310 --> 00:27:41,039
i i'm not going to ghost hunt in my own

541
00:27:44,950 --> 00:27:42,320
house

542
00:27:46,630 --> 00:27:44,960
and i i just don't want to know i don't

543
00:27:49,430 --> 00:27:46,640
want to know i don't

544
00:27:51,669 --> 00:27:49,440
think i need a ghost hunt now but

545
00:27:53,909 --> 00:27:51,679
but i don't want a ghost hunt i don't i

546
00:27:56,710 --> 00:27:53,919
i don't want to know what may be

547
00:27:59,590 --> 00:27:56,720
happening and that advice

548
00:28:01,750 --> 00:27:59,600
also came from many ghost hunters

549
00:28:04,710 --> 00:28:01,760
um on the show and people that study the

550
00:28:05,990 --> 00:28:04,720
paranormal and and the supernatural but

551
00:28:07,350 --> 00:28:06,000
no you don't necessarily you want to

552
00:28:08,950 --> 00:28:07,360
leave that to a professional you don't

553
00:28:10,630 --> 00:28:08,960
necessarily want to do that by yourself

554
00:28:14,070 --> 00:28:10,640
you don't know

555
00:28:16,149 --> 00:28:14,080
what you could be activating or inviting

556
00:28:17,750 --> 00:28:16,159
or disturbing

557
00:28:19,830 --> 00:28:17,760
you just don't know what you're messing

558
00:28:21,190 --> 00:28:19,840
with so it's best to leave that to

559
00:28:22,149 --> 00:28:21,200
professionals

560
00:28:23,830 --> 00:28:22,159
but

561
00:28:25,110 --> 00:28:23,840
for me

562
00:28:27,029 --> 00:28:25,120
the shoes

563
00:28:28,870 --> 00:28:27,039
have

564
00:28:30,789 --> 00:28:28,880
stopped moving

565
00:28:32,870 --> 00:28:30,799
and and that lasted for like two or

566
00:28:34,630 --> 00:28:32,880
three months right and then i had a

567
00:28:36,389 --> 00:28:34,640
little lull and then it went over to the

568
00:28:39,269 --> 00:28:36,399
boots and that was kind of weird now the

569
00:28:41,029 --> 00:28:39,279
boots now it's been a couple of months

570
00:28:42,630 --> 00:28:41,039
since i've had any

571
00:28:46,070 --> 00:28:42,640
movement up there

572
00:28:49,190 --> 00:28:46,080
um the other stuff that uh went on here

573
00:28:51,430 --> 00:28:49,200
in the bunker also

574
00:28:59,590 --> 00:28:51,440
has stopped

575
00:29:02,630 --> 00:28:59,600
so what is going on if anything

576
00:29:05,350 --> 00:29:02,640
and um and here's the thing

577
00:29:07,510 --> 00:29:05,360
all right now here's

578
00:29:09,669 --> 00:29:07,520
the thing

579
00:29:12,630 --> 00:29:09,679
i live alone

580
00:29:21,669 --> 00:29:12,640
and

581
00:29:24,149 --> 00:29:21,679
so therefore if i'm sitting in

582
00:29:27,430 --> 00:29:24,159
if i if i'm home

583
00:29:30,549 --> 00:29:27,440
and i see something or i hear something

584
00:29:34,389 --> 00:29:30,559
and you know from some and and

585
00:29:37,110 --> 00:29:34,399
and i know it's not me

586
00:29:39,110 --> 00:29:37,120
then what is it because i know

587
00:29:43,029 --> 00:29:39,120
that it's not my kids upstairs in their

588
00:29:44,950 --> 00:29:43,039
bedroom i know it's not my dog

589
00:29:47,190 --> 00:29:44,960
chewing up a pillow

590
00:29:49,750 --> 00:29:47,200
i i know these things

591
00:29:51,909 --> 00:29:49,760
and that's the part

592
00:29:54,789 --> 00:29:51,919
where again

593
00:29:57,029 --> 00:29:54,799
do i want to ghost hunt

594
00:30:00,630 --> 00:29:57,039
in my own home

595
00:30:03,669 --> 00:30:00,640
when i know i know

596
00:30:05,750 --> 00:30:03,679
as a physical fact

597
00:30:08,470 --> 00:30:05,760
that there are strange things happening

598
00:30:09,510 --> 00:30:08,480
right i i know this is that where you

599
00:30:12,870 --> 00:30:09,520
let it

600
00:30:14,950 --> 00:30:12,880
accept it

601
00:30:16,710 --> 00:30:14,960
that has been my choice

602
00:30:19,669 --> 00:30:16,720
so tonight

603
00:30:21,990 --> 00:30:19,679
with a tony and sheree being here

604
00:30:24,950 --> 00:30:22,000
what a great opportunity to discuss

605
00:30:27,750 --> 00:30:24,960
these things and you can think about

606
00:30:28,950 --> 00:30:27,760
what may or may not be going on in your

607
00:30:31,590 --> 00:30:28,960
own home

608
00:30:33,190 --> 00:30:31,600
and how to deal with it right and that's

609
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why we do the show we can all learn

610
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together

611
00:30:39,830 --> 00:30:36,559
all right very excited tonight tony and

612
00:30:42,230 --> 00:30:39,840
sheree rathman are here i've got uh a

613
00:30:44,149 --> 00:30:42,240
bunch of evps

614
00:30:45,750 --> 00:30:44,159
uh i haven't counted but

615
00:30:47,990 --> 00:30:45,760
i've got a bunch

616
00:30:50,549 --> 00:30:48,000
uh so stay tuned for that it's one of my

617
00:30:52,310 --> 00:30:50,559
favorite things to do is listen to evps

618
00:30:53,350 --> 00:30:52,320
we've got a bunch of that tonight so

619
00:30:56,630 --> 00:30:53,360
we're going to be doing that and

620
00:30:59,590 --> 00:30:56,640
discussing uh each one of those and of

621
00:31:01,909 --> 00:30:59,600
course what is ghost hunting and the two

622
00:31:03,830 --> 00:31:01,919
of the very best ghost hunters are here

623
00:31:06,389 --> 00:31:03,840
with us tonight this is fade to block i

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is not your father's radio show

716
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on the game changer radio network

717
00:36:05,670 --> 00:36:01,119
hi this is rob reiner from anvil and

718
00:36:25,670 --> 00:36:07,430
what's up i'm chris what up this is kyle

719
00:36:29,270 --> 00:36:27,589
all right welcome back fade to black i

720
00:36:31,589 --> 00:36:29,280
am your host jimmy church tonight tony

721
00:36:34,230 --> 00:36:31,599
and sheree rathman are with us full

722
00:36:36,550 --> 00:36:34,240
night of ghost hunting ghosts

723
00:36:38,870 --> 00:36:36,560
that is tonight and we've got a brand

724
00:36:40,470 --> 00:36:38,880
new collection of vvps

725
00:36:42,230 --> 00:36:40,480
and we're also going to talk about their

726
00:36:44,550 --> 00:36:42,240
latest investigations when i spoke to

727
00:36:46,230 --> 00:36:44,560
tony last week they just came off of

728
00:36:48,069 --> 00:36:46,240
like the night before

729
00:36:49,750 --> 00:36:48,079
uh another investigation so we'll talk

730
00:36:52,310 --> 00:36:49,760
about that tonight tony is the founder

731
00:36:54,470 --> 00:36:52,320
lead investigator of entity voices

732
00:36:57,910 --> 00:36:54,480
paranormal investigation

733
00:36:59,670 --> 00:36:57,920
and uh 12 years of doing this he was a

734
00:37:01,270 --> 00:36:59,680
skeptic until

735
00:37:03,750 --> 00:37:01,280
his better half

736
00:37:06,550 --> 00:37:03,760
opened up his eyes sheree rathman

737
00:37:09,990 --> 00:37:06,560
co-founder and investigator over at

738
00:37:11,270 --> 00:37:10,000
entity voices and uh she grew up in the

739
00:37:13,270 --> 00:37:11,280
philippines and was surrounded by

740
00:37:15,030 --> 00:37:13,280
paranormal activity as a child we're

741
00:37:18,230 --> 00:37:15,040
going to talk about all of that tonight

742
00:37:20,150 --> 00:37:18,240
she grew up in a haunted house and uh

743
00:37:22,470 --> 00:37:20,160
drew tony in and that's all we need to

744
00:37:24,390 --> 00:37:22,480
know entity voices

745
00:37:27,829 --> 00:37:24,400
is the website and i would like to

746
00:37:29,190 --> 00:37:27,839
welcome back on x network's

747
00:37:32,150 --> 00:37:29,200
newest

748
00:37:33,829 --> 00:37:32,160
paranormal team and uh show welcome guys

749
00:37:36,950 --> 00:37:33,839
how are you

750
00:37:39,589 --> 00:37:36,960
you're doing great jimmy hi jimmy how

751
00:37:41,430 --> 00:37:39,599
are you cherie what's cracking

752
00:37:45,430 --> 00:37:41,440
it's always cracking

753
00:37:49,750 --> 00:37:45,440
cracking and uh

754
00:37:52,950 --> 00:37:49,760
last week well okay first uh i i wanted

755
00:37:55,750 --> 00:37:52,960
to jump into uh what you guys did

756
00:37:58,069 --> 00:37:55,760
now i i'm not sure when i talked to tony

757
00:38:00,550 --> 00:37:58,079
but it must have been over the weekend

758
00:38:03,670 --> 00:38:00,560
um and then so we'll get to that in a

759
00:38:05,910 --> 00:38:03,680
second but uh welcome uh to the nx

760
00:38:07,190 --> 00:38:05,920
network and uh very proud to have the

761
00:38:09,349 --> 00:38:07,200
very best

762
00:38:11,030 --> 00:38:09,359
uh over with us now

763
00:38:12,470 --> 00:38:11,040
thank you it's a it's a pleasure to be

764
00:38:15,430 --> 00:38:12,480
here um

765
00:38:17,510 --> 00:38:15,440
the nx network is uh fantastic we

766
00:38:18,950 --> 00:38:17,520
absolutely love it we are honored to be

767
00:38:22,069 --> 00:38:18,960
here as well

768
00:38:23,990 --> 00:38:22,079
um and uh yeah couldn't couldn't ask for

769
00:38:26,710 --> 00:38:24,000
more that's for sure having us again

770
00:38:29,190 --> 00:38:26,720
yeah we appreciate it

771
00:38:30,390 --> 00:38:29,200
well see here's you know and i know that

772
00:38:32,390 --> 00:38:30,400
we've talked about this a couple of

773
00:38:34,790 --> 00:38:32,400
times over the years but

774
00:38:36,550 --> 00:38:34,800
um one of the coolest

775
00:38:39,109 --> 00:38:36,560
uh nights

776
00:38:40,470 --> 00:38:39,119
of my life uh was spent with you guys on

777
00:38:44,150 --> 00:38:40,480
the queen mary

778
00:38:46,390 --> 00:38:44,160
and and uh for a lot of reasons you know

779
00:38:48,470 --> 00:38:46,400
it's the company was the people and

780
00:38:49,670 --> 00:38:48,480
and and the investigation of my first

781
00:38:51,109 --> 00:38:49,680
ghost hunt

782
00:38:53,270 --> 00:38:51,119
but uh

783
00:38:56,630 --> 00:38:53,280
the three of us

784
00:38:58,870 --> 00:38:56,640
i i got my first dose of uh my first

785
00:39:00,950 --> 00:38:58,880
dose of a paranormal investigation with

786
00:39:04,150 --> 00:39:00,960
that voice that happened in that

787
00:39:05,589 --> 00:39:04,160
in that suite below dex and

788
00:39:07,030 --> 00:39:05,599
uh i

789
00:39:09,270 --> 00:39:07,040
i remember

790
00:39:12,069 --> 00:39:09,280
uh when that happened the funny thing

791
00:39:14,470 --> 00:39:12,079
was was tony and i connecting eyes like

792
00:39:17,109 --> 00:39:14,480
what right okay so there was that part

793
00:39:19,670 --> 00:39:17,119
but it was um after we wrapped that

794
00:39:21,829 --> 00:39:19,680
night and i was walking uh

795
00:39:22,950 --> 00:39:21,839
to my car you know whatever one o'clock

796
00:39:25,190 --> 00:39:22,960
in the morning

797
00:39:28,950 --> 00:39:25,200
and i was like man i just heard my first

798
00:39:31,190 --> 00:39:28,960
voice my first video wow i i did that by

799
00:39:33,589 --> 00:39:31,200
myself and then i turned around and it's

800
00:39:35,589 --> 00:39:33,599
you too and and

801
00:39:37,270 --> 00:39:35,599
and and we got a chance to say goodbye

802
00:39:40,069 --> 00:39:37,280
and and talk about that because it was

803
00:39:44,630 --> 00:39:40,079
just a tremendous thing now and that was

804
00:39:47,270 --> 00:39:44,640
my excitement does that does does um

805
00:39:49,750 --> 00:39:47,280
there's a voice like that

806
00:39:52,069 --> 00:39:49,760
not an evp or something you've got to go

807
00:39:53,990 --> 00:39:52,079
and find and so but something that is

808
00:39:56,390 --> 00:39:54,000
you know audible

809
00:39:59,349 --> 00:39:56,400
does that happen often uh to you guys i

810
00:40:02,230 --> 00:39:59,359
mean is it just like no big deal now

811
00:40:04,950 --> 00:40:02,240
no it's always a big deal um because

812
00:40:06,790 --> 00:40:04,960
that's what you always go looking for

813
00:40:10,069 --> 00:40:06,800
and yeah it's one thing to pick up an

814
00:40:12,550 --> 00:40:10,079
evp but it is completely different when

815
00:40:14,710 --> 00:40:12,560
it's audible to the human ear and you

816
00:40:16,230 --> 00:40:14,720
and i heard it at the same time because

817
00:40:19,109 --> 00:40:16,240
like you said we both looked at each

818
00:40:21,349 --> 00:40:19,119
other and eyes like pancakes going

819
00:40:23,510 --> 00:40:21,359
what was that yeah who was that i guess

820
00:40:25,990 --> 00:40:23,520
is the better question and if i remember

821
00:40:29,349 --> 00:40:26,000
correctly it was more of a hmm it was a

822
00:40:32,470 --> 00:40:29,359
hmm yeah a sound more than a than a word

823
00:40:34,390 --> 00:40:32,480
yeah it didn't say like get out you know

824
00:40:36,950 --> 00:40:34,400
it was hmm

825
00:40:39,510 --> 00:40:36,960
you know the funny thing i'm so glad

826
00:40:40,870 --> 00:40:39,520
that you're here um because i tell the

827
00:40:44,390 --> 00:40:40,880
story all the time and it just sounds

828
00:40:45,589 --> 00:40:44,400
like a bunch of bs you know

829
00:40:47,270 --> 00:40:45,599
but um

830
00:40:50,150 --> 00:40:47,280
it was

831
00:40:52,790 --> 00:40:50,160
our reactions when it happened

832
00:40:54,950 --> 00:40:52,800
you looked over your shoulder

833
00:40:56,950 --> 00:40:54,960
and i looked over mine but you kind of

834
00:41:00,230 --> 00:40:56,960
looked behind you

835
00:41:03,030 --> 00:41:00,240
and and i did too i thought it was uh

836
00:41:04,069 --> 00:41:03,040
the camera guy or whoever was standing

837
00:41:06,550 --> 00:41:04,079
here

838
00:41:08,870 --> 00:41:06,560
and so i look over at but you looked

839
00:41:10,150 --> 00:41:08,880
over your shoulder in in the opposite

840
00:41:11,349 --> 00:41:10,160
direction

841
00:41:13,589 --> 00:41:11,359
and

842
00:41:15,670 --> 00:41:13,599
that's one of the things that

843
00:41:19,829 --> 00:41:15,680
identifies it to me

844
00:41:23,190 --> 00:41:19,839
as being paranormal because when a sound

845
00:41:26,150 --> 00:41:23,200
occurs naturally or somebody spoke that

846
00:41:28,150 --> 00:41:26,160
sound your ears because there's one on

847
00:41:30,870 --> 00:41:28,160
each side of your head

848
00:41:32,069 --> 00:41:30,880
can identify the direction that it's

849
00:41:35,030 --> 00:41:32,079
coming from

850
00:41:38,550 --> 00:41:35,040
when it's a paranormal sound

851
00:41:41,990 --> 00:41:38,560
you can't we've heard voice after voice

852
00:41:44,230 --> 00:41:42,000
after voice that you can't identify what

853
00:41:46,950 --> 00:41:44,240
direction it's coming from because it

854
00:41:50,390 --> 00:41:46,960
kind of fills the entire room all at

855
00:41:51,589 --> 00:41:50,400
once and a sound direction because

856
00:41:54,950 --> 00:41:51,599
there's

857
00:41:56,710 --> 00:41:54,960
difference in the way that it's sent out

858
00:41:58,230 --> 00:41:56,720
into the environment you know i would

859
00:42:00,150 --> 00:41:58,240
love to be able to say i can tell you

860
00:42:02,710 --> 00:42:00,160
it's a different type of sound wave i

861
00:42:04,870 --> 00:42:02,720
don't know that right but the fact that

862
00:42:06,710 --> 00:42:04,880
it isn't identifiable

863
00:42:09,589 --> 00:42:06,720
as to the direction that it's coming

864
00:42:11,670 --> 00:42:09,599
from tells me it was paranormal because

865
00:42:13,750 --> 00:42:11,680
you looked one way i looked the complete

866
00:42:16,870 --> 00:42:13,760
opposite over my shoulder thinking it

867
00:42:18,309 --> 00:42:16,880
came from behind me um so that was a

868
00:42:20,870 --> 00:42:18,319
good indication to me that yeah what we

869
00:42:23,750 --> 00:42:20,880
just heard wasn't natural yeah and plus

870
00:42:26,470 --> 00:42:23,760
also it's so quiet everybody is quiet

871
00:42:29,109 --> 00:42:26,480
nobody's talking so

872
00:42:32,069 --> 00:42:29,119
that would surprise me like hmm who is

873
00:42:35,829 --> 00:42:32,079
that right right and and and

874
00:42:38,550 --> 00:42:35,839
shari you bring up uh the one point

875
00:42:40,309 --> 00:42:38,560
that needs to be emphasized with that

876
00:42:43,349 --> 00:42:40,319
moment for us

877
00:42:47,190 --> 00:42:43,359
we were on that ship alone

878
00:42:49,270 --> 00:42:47,200
there was nobody on that giant boat and

879
00:42:52,069 --> 00:42:49,280
walking around

880
00:42:54,950 --> 00:42:52,079
uh without having because it's tourists

881
00:42:56,630 --> 00:42:54,960
you know it's a hotel so normally there

882
00:42:57,670 --> 00:42:56,640
are hundreds and hundreds of people on

883
00:43:00,230 --> 00:42:57,680
that ship

884
00:43:02,230 --> 00:43:00,240
we had it to ourselves and when we were

885
00:43:04,790 --> 00:43:02,240
walking around those hallways you never

886
00:43:07,910 --> 00:43:04,800
heard silence like that

887
00:43:09,990 --> 00:43:07,920
right it was dead quiet and so we're

888
00:43:12,470 --> 00:43:10,000
we're in that suite

889
00:43:14,790 --> 00:43:12,480
and when nobody is talking

890
00:43:16,790 --> 00:43:14,800
you can hear your heartbeat i mean it is

891
00:43:18,069 --> 00:43:16,800
just so quiet it was just so quiet and

892
00:43:20,950 --> 00:43:18,079
that voice

893
00:43:23,270 --> 00:43:20,960
was loud and here's the other thing okay

894
00:43:24,829 --> 00:43:23,280
uh back to your point

895
00:43:27,829 --> 00:43:24,839
this didn't have a

896
00:43:30,550 --> 00:43:27,839
source which you can pinpoint you know a

897
00:43:32,870 --> 00:43:30,560
throat a mouth right so now you can try

898
00:43:34,950 --> 00:43:32,880
and that's what your ears do you can

899
00:43:38,790 --> 00:43:34,960
detect the direction

900
00:43:41,589 --> 00:43:38,800
because there wasn't a source for this

901
00:43:44,550 --> 00:43:41,599
it was like everywhere right i don't

902
00:43:46,309 --> 00:43:44,560
know is that the right way to say it but

903
00:43:47,990 --> 00:43:46,319
that's the perfect way to say it and

904
00:43:51,109 --> 00:43:48,000
that's exactly

905
00:43:53,349 --> 00:43:51,119
when um when a paranormal sound is

906
00:43:55,990 --> 00:43:53,359
audible to the human ear that's the

907
00:43:58,550 --> 00:43:56,000
perfect description it literally is

908
00:44:00,950 --> 00:43:58,560
everywhere and that's where it came from

909
00:44:03,109 --> 00:44:00,960
because we couldn't identify direction

910
00:44:04,790 --> 00:44:03,119
um it was nobody talking and you're

911
00:44:07,270 --> 00:44:04,800
right being on that ship when it was

912
00:44:11,030 --> 00:44:07,280
completely empty was just an incredible

913
00:44:13,829 --> 00:44:11,040
experience plus they had every room door

914
00:44:15,430 --> 00:44:13,839
open so when you walk down that hall

915
00:44:17,829 --> 00:44:15,440
knowing that there was no one on the

916
00:44:20,069 --> 00:44:17,839
ship except for who was there to film it

917
00:44:22,870 --> 00:44:20,079
still felt like eyes were watching you

918
00:44:25,589 --> 00:44:22,880
from every door you passed by did you

919
00:44:28,069 --> 00:44:25,599
fish sheree did you i felt that did you

920
00:44:29,109 --> 00:44:28,079
feel that walking around there with all

921
00:44:31,349 --> 00:44:29,119
all the

922
00:44:34,470 --> 00:44:31,359
open door sweets and

923
00:44:37,190 --> 00:44:34,480
that you were being watched yes it's

924
00:44:39,589 --> 00:44:37,200
actually scary when i was walking

925
00:44:42,470 --> 00:44:39,599
because you guys are you guys are when

926
00:44:45,190 --> 00:44:42,480
we were walking you guys are ahead of me

927
00:44:47,589 --> 00:44:45,200
i'm behind it and i don't want to look

928
00:44:51,030 --> 00:44:47,599
to my left or to my right

929
00:44:53,829 --> 00:44:51,040
because it's so dark even though the

930
00:44:55,510 --> 00:44:53,839
doors are open it gives me a goosebump

931
00:44:57,750 --> 00:44:55,520
i'm like i don't want to look what if i

932
00:45:02,550 --> 00:44:57,760
see something i'm gonna be screaming

933
00:45:05,030 --> 00:45:02,560
it's scary yes it is and i i felt um and

934
00:45:07,670 --> 00:45:05,040
i think that we all get this kind of

935
00:45:11,190 --> 00:45:07,680
uh this this kind of sensation

936
00:45:12,950 --> 00:45:11,200
that you feel that you're being watched

937
00:45:14,550 --> 00:45:12,960
but you don't want to look because you

938
00:45:18,150 --> 00:45:14,560
don't want to actually see somebody

939
00:45:20,710 --> 00:45:18,160
looking at you exactly right so it's all

940
00:45:23,109 --> 00:45:20,720
it's eyes ahead don't look to the left

941
00:45:24,710 --> 00:45:23,119
or right

942
00:45:27,670 --> 00:45:24,720
it's crazy

943
00:45:29,030 --> 00:45:27,680
well tony keep on he you know what tony

944
00:45:30,550 --> 00:45:29,040
says to me

945
00:45:32,710 --> 00:45:30,560
how come you've been

946
00:45:35,349 --> 00:45:32,720
doing this you're a paranormal

947
00:45:38,390 --> 00:45:35,359
investigator and you're still scared i'm

948
00:45:39,990 --> 00:45:38,400
like heck yeah i'm only human

949
00:45:41,910 --> 00:45:40,000
i understand that

950
00:45:44,309 --> 00:45:41,920
isn't that half the fun though isn't

951
00:45:46,870 --> 00:45:44,319
that half the fun is is is being a

952
00:45:49,990 --> 00:45:46,880
little bit scared

953
00:45:52,390 --> 00:45:50,000
it depends it depends on how scary i

954
00:45:53,589 --> 00:45:52,400
mean we've we've stepped foot into

955
00:45:55,750 --> 00:45:53,599
places

956
00:45:58,550 --> 00:45:55,760
that uh cherie swears she'll never go

957
00:45:59,349 --> 00:45:58,560
back i will but um

958
00:46:02,870 --> 00:45:59,359
you know

959
00:46:04,950 --> 00:46:02,880
the fear when when great activity occurs

960
00:46:07,109 --> 00:46:04,960
there's a cross between an excitement

961
00:46:08,630 --> 00:46:07,119
level and depending what that activity

962
00:46:10,390 --> 00:46:08,640
is can also be

963
00:46:13,430 --> 00:46:10,400
a little unsettling

964
00:46:16,309 --> 00:46:13,440
um so yeah that uh that rush of emotion

965
00:46:18,630 --> 00:46:16,319
from from the excitement and the fear is

966
00:46:21,030 --> 00:46:18,640
is fun to experience yeah it's fun to

967
00:46:24,630 --> 00:46:21,040
experience but you don't know who you

968
00:46:26,950 --> 00:46:24,640
will run into that's what you know the

969
00:46:29,670 --> 00:46:26,960
scary part for me

970
00:46:32,470 --> 00:46:29,680
and i'm not scared if tony's next to me

971
00:46:34,710 --> 00:46:32,480
or if there's other people but if i'm by

972
00:46:37,190 --> 00:46:34,720
myself i can't

973
00:46:39,109 --> 00:46:37,200
oh is that oh wait a minute so tony

974
00:46:40,309 --> 00:46:39,119
doesn't like send you up to the attic

975
00:46:46,150 --> 00:46:40,319
with a

976
00:46:49,030 --> 00:46:46,160
she used to do that but when we ran into

977
00:46:50,710 --> 00:46:49,040
the um shadow figure in the old phelps

978
00:46:51,910 --> 00:46:50,720
dodge hospital

979
00:46:56,550 --> 00:46:51,920
she

980
00:47:01,589 --> 00:46:56,560
go off unless you're behind me because i

981
00:47:04,390 --> 00:47:01,599
i saw it with my own eyes i scream and i

982
00:47:05,190 --> 00:47:04,400
seriously my legs are trembling and i'm

983
00:47:08,390 --> 00:47:05,200
like

984
00:47:11,270 --> 00:47:08,400
really cold i said i'm done we're done

985
00:47:13,190 --> 00:47:11,280
i'm not doing paranormal anymore well we

986
00:47:16,390 --> 00:47:13,200
we caught it on we caught it on video

987
00:47:18,550 --> 00:47:16,400
first so we knew it was there um and

988
00:47:20,150 --> 00:47:18,560
then what a week later or a couple days

989
00:47:23,109 --> 00:47:20,160
later we were doing another

990
00:47:25,670 --> 00:47:23,119
investigation and it literally crossed

991
00:47:27,750 --> 00:47:25,680
right again walked right across the hall

992
00:47:30,790 --> 00:47:27,760
maybe 20 feet from cherie she could see

993
00:47:33,910 --> 00:47:30,800
it playing this day and she she screamed

994
00:47:37,589 --> 00:47:33,920
so loud yeah now uh uh

995
00:47:39,349 --> 00:47:37,599
who else is um um on the team over at uh

996
00:47:42,470 --> 00:47:39,359
evpi

997
00:47:45,349 --> 00:47:42,480
uh ron jacovetti and lourdes gonzalez

998
00:47:49,349 --> 00:47:45,359
and the other two are chris allgood and

999
00:47:50,230 --> 00:47:49,359
his wife audra keeler who's got the tats

1000
00:47:56,069 --> 00:47:50,240
chris

1001
00:47:57,349 --> 00:47:56,079
guy that you send in first that's that's

1002
00:48:03,349 --> 00:47:57,359
that's

1003
00:48:04,309 --> 00:48:03,359
you go to the attic with

1004
00:48:08,150 --> 00:48:04,319
um

1005
00:48:10,230 --> 00:48:08,160
and do you use uh the complete team when

1006
00:48:12,710 --> 00:48:10,240
you go out on an investigation like you

1007
00:48:13,510 --> 00:48:12,720
did just did this weekend

1008
00:48:15,430 --> 00:48:13,520
and

1009
00:48:17,990 --> 00:48:15,440
does everybody have a specialty that

1010
00:48:20,950 --> 00:48:18,000
they bring to the table

1011
00:48:22,950 --> 00:48:20,960
yeah each one of us has a specialty

1012
00:48:26,470 --> 00:48:22,960
cheri and i are

1013
00:48:29,910 --> 00:48:26,480
evp itc specialists

1014
00:48:32,870 --> 00:48:29,920
chris and audra are actually both um

1015
00:48:36,549 --> 00:48:32,880
sensitive chris has been able to pick up

1016
00:48:38,710 --> 00:48:36,559
on what's going on um different feelings

1017
00:48:41,109 --> 00:48:38,720
different energies within a room uh

1018
00:48:43,270 --> 00:48:41,119
since he was a small child and has had

1019
00:48:45,430 --> 00:48:43,280
interaction with spirits since he was a

1020
00:48:48,630 --> 00:48:45,440
small child plus he's got a police

1021
00:48:51,190 --> 00:48:48,640
background so when you cross what he

1022
00:48:53,430 --> 00:48:51,200
feels and thinks is happening with his

1023
00:48:55,670 --> 00:48:53,440
unbelievable ability to

1024
00:48:56,870 --> 00:48:55,680
pick things out notice changes in the

1025
00:48:58,150 --> 00:48:56,880
environment

1026
00:49:01,190 --> 00:48:58,160
that's his

1027
00:49:02,390 --> 00:49:01,200
forte for sure and then ron and lourdes

1028
00:49:06,309 --> 00:49:02,400
are

1029
00:49:08,470 --> 00:49:06,319
drv or direct radio voice specialists

1030
00:49:12,390 --> 00:49:08,480
it's similar to a ghost box but it

1031
00:49:15,670 --> 00:49:12,400
doesn't scan radio frequencies it sits

1032
00:49:18,549 --> 00:49:15,680
on either a medium wave or

1033
00:49:21,109 --> 00:49:18,559
low wave frequency with no radio

1034
00:49:23,190 --> 00:49:21,119
transmission so you're literally hearing

1035
00:49:27,349 --> 00:49:23,200
white noise and then they

1036
00:49:30,549 --> 00:49:27,359
hook up different ai functions um to

1037
00:49:33,750 --> 00:49:30,559
pull voices out of the

1038
00:49:36,790 --> 00:49:33,760
white noise static and what comes out is

1039
00:49:39,030 --> 00:49:36,800
absolutely incredible in fact i had him

1040
00:49:41,430 --> 00:49:39,040
show me how to how to do it because it's

1041
00:49:44,950 --> 00:49:41,440
absolutely fascinating

1042
00:49:47,990 --> 00:49:44,960
i've never heard of this so is it uh

1043
00:49:48,870 --> 00:49:48,000
is it real time communication

1044
00:49:50,150 --> 00:49:48,880
yes

1045
00:49:52,870 --> 00:49:50,160
really

1046
00:49:53,990 --> 00:49:52,880
okay so you're listening to white noise

1047
00:49:57,190 --> 00:49:54,000
right right

1048
00:49:59,589 --> 00:49:57,200
and then the application of

1049
00:50:02,790 --> 00:49:59,599
artificial intelligence software

1050
00:50:05,430 --> 00:50:02,800
yep and then you are able to pull

1051
00:50:08,390 --> 00:50:05,440
uh communication out words i'm guessing

1052
00:50:09,430 --> 00:50:08,400
complete sentences in fact we did a live

1053
00:50:10,829 --> 00:50:09,440
version

1054
00:50:14,150 --> 00:50:10,839
of it

1055
00:50:17,030 --> 00:50:14,160
ron um used his direct radio voice

1056
00:50:18,150 --> 00:50:17,040
software and i used the evox

1057
00:50:21,109 --> 00:50:18,160
and

1058
00:50:24,150 --> 00:50:21,119
he literally said live on the air say

1059
00:50:25,190 --> 00:50:24,160
cherie rathman and it wasn't two seconds

1060
00:50:27,829 --> 00:50:25,200
later

1061
00:50:30,549 --> 00:50:27,839
this male voice says sheree rathman

1062
00:50:33,349 --> 00:50:30,559
clear isabelle yeah i think he asked a

1063
00:50:35,349 --> 00:50:33,359
question and he mentioned my name as in

1064
00:50:37,670 --> 00:50:35,359
really like you know

1065
00:50:40,309 --> 00:50:37,680
the spirit it's just next to him yeah it

1066
00:50:42,309 --> 00:50:40,319
was it was very clear and he can get

1067
00:50:45,430 --> 00:50:42,319
full sentences too a lot of time with

1068
00:50:47,910 --> 00:50:45,440
spirit boxes you'll get a word or two

1069
00:50:49,349 --> 00:50:47,920
sometimes you get more but it's it's

1070
00:50:51,829 --> 00:50:49,359
less um

1071
00:50:54,390 --> 00:50:51,839
less of a chance he'll get complete

1072
00:50:56,470 --> 00:50:54,400
sentences that'll that'll just go on and

1073
00:50:58,630 --> 00:50:56,480
on and then you can ask another question

1074
00:51:00,710 --> 00:50:58,640
and the voice comes right back but yet

1075
00:51:03,510 --> 00:51:00,720
again you're listening to

1076
00:51:07,349 --> 00:51:03,520
a long wave or shortwave frequency that

1077
00:51:08,870 --> 00:51:07,359
has no transmission whatsoever on it now

1078
00:51:11,190 --> 00:51:08,880
you you

1079
00:51:12,309 --> 00:51:11,200
you have and i know this because i've

1080
00:51:15,750 --> 00:51:12,319
seen it

1081
00:51:17,670 --> 00:51:15,760
uh personally you've literally got a

1082
00:51:18,630 --> 00:51:17,680
truckload of gear

1083
00:51:19,750 --> 00:51:18,640
yeah

1084
00:51:23,030 --> 00:51:19,760
we do

1085
00:51:24,230 --> 00:51:23,040
literally a truckload uh maybe even two

1086
00:51:25,910 --> 00:51:24,240
truckloads

1087
00:51:28,230 --> 00:51:25,920
um and you're lucky that you have cherie

1088
00:51:29,910 --> 00:51:28,240
for her wife because she just

1089
00:51:30,790 --> 00:51:29,920
she lets that happen

1090
00:51:35,750 --> 00:51:30,800
um

1091
00:51:36,950 --> 00:51:35,760
uh honey i got another ghost box right

1092
00:51:38,309 --> 00:51:36,960
so anyway

1093
00:51:40,549 --> 00:51:38,319
um

1094
00:51:42,870 --> 00:51:40,559
out of all of that gear

1095
00:51:44,630 --> 00:51:42,880
and i would like to discuss uh some of

1096
00:51:45,829 --> 00:51:44,640
that specifically but

1097
00:51:50,549 --> 00:51:45,839
what would you

1098
00:51:52,390 --> 00:51:50,559
what is necessary uh on a ghost hunt not

1099
00:51:54,710 --> 00:51:52,400
all of it i mean but what are the what

1100
00:51:57,670 --> 00:51:54,720
are the necessary ingredients when you

1101
00:52:00,549 --> 00:51:57,680
go out on an investigation

1102
00:52:02,870 --> 00:52:00,559
the absolute necessities are

1103
00:52:04,710 --> 00:52:02,880
a video camera right you can also take

1104
00:52:07,349 --> 00:52:04,720
photos but some people just use their

1105
00:52:10,230 --> 00:52:07,359
phone but a way to a way to capture

1106
00:52:13,030 --> 00:52:10,240
still images and a way to capture video

1107
00:52:16,150 --> 00:52:13,040
absolute must

1108
00:52:18,870 --> 00:52:16,160
one absolutely is a digital recorder so

1109
00:52:21,829 --> 00:52:18,880
that you can catch evps and voices that

1110
00:52:24,549 --> 00:52:21,839
you don't hear and the third one

1111
00:52:27,030 --> 00:52:24,559
probably an emf meter just to be able to

1112
00:52:28,630 --> 00:52:27,040
get a second source of information if

1113
00:52:30,230 --> 00:52:28,640
something's going on is there any

1114
00:52:33,349 --> 00:52:30,240
electromagnetic

1115
00:52:36,710 --> 00:52:33,359
frequency disturbances happening um

1116
00:52:39,190 --> 00:52:36,720
those three items would be enough to do

1117
00:52:41,109 --> 00:52:39,200
an investigation that you would be able

1118
00:52:45,109 --> 00:52:41,119
to capture um

1119
00:52:47,270 --> 00:52:45,119
good stuff now what about uh

1120
00:52:49,270 --> 00:52:47,280
branching out a little bit more into the

1121
00:52:53,589 --> 00:52:49,280
exotic you know some kind of clear

1122
00:52:54,790 --> 00:52:53,599
infrared radar heat seeking missile

1123
00:52:57,109 --> 00:52:54,800
you know

1124
00:52:59,349 --> 00:52:57,119
um which which we see so much of this

1125
00:53:02,870 --> 00:52:59,359
today you know lasers and

1126
00:53:05,589 --> 00:53:02,880
and and and so what about the exotic

1127
00:53:08,870 --> 00:53:05,599
well yeah you've got the flare

1128
00:53:11,829 --> 00:53:08,880
we use just a huge variety of audio

1129
00:53:15,109 --> 00:53:11,839
equipment including parabolic mics which

1130
00:53:16,950 --> 00:53:15,119
we have found work absolutely fantastic

1131
00:53:19,430 --> 00:53:16,960
things that a normal digital recorder

1132
00:53:21,750 --> 00:53:19,440
won't pick up if you go back and listen

1133
00:53:23,750 --> 00:53:21,760
to a recording done with a high-powered

1134
00:53:25,750 --> 00:53:23,760
parabolic mic

1135
00:53:28,150 --> 00:53:25,760
you're just amazed when we've we've

1136
00:53:30,150 --> 00:53:28,160
gotten 20-minute conversations between

1137
00:53:32,069 --> 00:53:30,160
people that aren't there

1138
00:53:33,430 --> 00:53:32,079
nowhere in the building nowhere around

1139
00:53:34,950 --> 00:53:33,440
us and then some people might say well

1140
00:53:37,510 --> 00:53:34,960
you're maybe you're picking something up

1141
00:53:39,109 --> 00:53:37,520
from outside no we did it how many times

1142
00:53:41,109 --> 00:53:39,119
in the phelps dodge there aren't even

1143
00:53:43,670 --> 00:53:41,119
any neighbors i mean we are middle of

1144
00:53:44,470 --> 00:53:43,680
nowhere um but yet these voices come

1145
00:53:46,870 --> 00:53:44,480
through

1146
00:53:49,990 --> 00:53:46,880
and so that's another one flair

1147
00:53:51,910 --> 00:53:50,000
definitely yeah i think the most uh most

1148
00:53:54,549 --> 00:53:51,920
um one of the

1149
00:53:58,069 --> 00:53:54,559
exotic equipment you really want to

1150
00:54:01,750 --> 00:53:58,079
catch something you want to put all the

1151
00:54:02,870 --> 00:54:01,760
dvr the night vision in all corners yeah

1152
00:54:05,910 --> 00:54:02,880
the rv camera

1153
00:54:08,069 --> 00:54:05,920
overnight so you'll probably catch

1154
00:54:10,630 --> 00:54:08,079
something yeah those are a plus i mean

1155
00:54:13,750 --> 00:54:10,640
there's so much and every day new stuff

1156
00:54:14,710 --> 00:54:13,760
comes out now the real question is

1157
00:54:16,870 --> 00:54:14,720
you know

1158
00:54:19,349 --> 00:54:16,880
some of the new stuff that is being

1159
00:54:20,950 --> 00:54:19,359
released are there huge advantages to it

1160
00:54:23,190 --> 00:54:20,960
yeah i mean motion

1161
00:54:24,470 --> 00:54:23,200
light strips that you can put the

1162
00:54:27,109 --> 00:54:24,480
sensors

1163
00:54:27,990 --> 00:54:27,119
completely around a door and have the

1164
00:54:29,829 --> 00:54:28,000
light

1165
00:54:31,829 --> 00:54:29,839
big enough and facing you or close to

1166
00:54:34,309 --> 00:54:31,839
you that if something activates through

1167
00:54:36,789 --> 00:54:34,319
the door if motion occurs this whole

1168
00:54:39,270 --> 00:54:36,799
strip lights up those are cool they've

1169
00:54:40,549 --> 00:54:39,280
got what are called bionic mics that are

1170
00:54:43,270 --> 00:54:40,559
similar to a

1171
00:54:44,150 --> 00:54:43,280
uh parabolic but cheaper and but work

1172
00:54:45,750 --> 00:54:44,160
well

1173
00:54:48,630 --> 00:54:45,760
um but then you've got other things that

1174
00:54:51,589 --> 00:54:48,640
have been around a while like the ovulus

1175
00:54:53,190 --> 00:54:51,599
and uh the paranormal puck

1176
00:54:57,190 --> 00:54:53,200
do they really

1177
00:54:59,829 --> 00:54:57,200
stuff well

1178
00:55:02,710 --> 00:54:59,839
i guess i haven't used them enough to to

1179
00:55:04,789 --> 00:55:02,720
probably give a determining factor but

1180
00:55:06,390 --> 00:55:04,799
just knowing how they're built

1181
00:55:09,910 --> 00:55:06,400
the fact that it's got

1182
00:55:12,309 --> 00:55:09,920
2 000 words in it compared to 158

1183
00:55:15,109 --> 00:55:12,319
000 which is in the english language so

1184
00:55:18,069 --> 00:55:15,119
if they only chose 2 000 chances are

1185
00:55:20,470 --> 00:55:18,079
any of those 2 000 words would probably

1186
00:55:23,190 --> 00:55:20,480
relate in one way or another to a

1187
00:55:25,270 --> 00:55:23,200
haunted location and to me that that

1188
00:55:28,309 --> 00:55:25,280
doesn't really show any signs of

1189
00:55:31,510 --> 00:55:28,319
paranormal activity now uh do both of

1190
00:55:33,670 --> 00:55:31,520
you know how to operate all of the stuff

1191
00:55:34,390 --> 00:55:33,680
that you guys carry with you

1192
00:55:35,670 --> 00:55:34,400
no

1193
00:55:38,950 --> 00:55:35,680
which one don't

1194
00:55:41,349 --> 00:55:38,960
he's like

1195
00:55:42,150 --> 00:55:41,359
nope she she says that so she doesn't

1196
00:55:44,470 --> 00:55:42,160
have to

1197
00:55:46,789 --> 00:55:44,480
i thought i thought it was the opposite

1198
00:55:48,549 --> 00:55:46,799
she acts like

1199
00:55:50,549 --> 00:55:48,559
she actually try him

1200
00:55:52,069 --> 00:55:50,559
i will buy him the equipment he'll use

1201
00:55:56,630 --> 00:55:52,079
it

1202
00:55:59,670 --> 00:55:56,640
amongst all of the stuff and you told me

1203
00:56:01,510 --> 00:55:59,680
what everything did cherie so i assumed

1204
00:56:04,710 --> 00:56:01,520
that if a team member

1205
00:56:07,190 --> 00:56:04,720
twists an ankle during an investigation

1206
00:56:09,349 --> 00:56:07,200
somebody can pick up the slack

1207
00:56:10,309 --> 00:56:09,359
she she can

1208
00:56:12,309 --> 00:56:10,319
but

1209
00:56:15,910 --> 00:56:12,319
like tony says because i don't want to

1210
00:56:17,109 --> 00:56:15,920
hook up all this it's hard it's hard to

1211
00:56:19,990 --> 00:56:17,119
you know

1212
00:56:22,710 --> 00:56:20,000
um how'd you say that like set up the

1213
00:56:24,870 --> 00:56:22,720
worst thing she hates was when i set dvr

1214
00:56:27,109 --> 00:56:24,880
recorders up with like six or eight

1215
00:56:28,390 --> 00:56:27,119
cameras because she wants nothing to do

1216
00:56:30,470 --> 00:56:28,400
with it she doesn't want to string

1217
00:56:32,710 --> 00:56:30,480
cables she doesn't want to make sure

1218
00:56:34,870 --> 00:56:32,720
that the the cameras are focused and

1219
00:56:37,030 --> 00:56:34,880
they're clear and so i usually do all

1220
00:56:39,030 --> 00:56:37,040
that but but she does a million other

1221
00:56:41,030 --> 00:56:39,040
things that always help so if it's

1222
00:56:44,549 --> 00:56:41,040
necessary i will help him yeah she

1223
00:56:47,190 --> 00:56:44,559
always does now uh i just we're going to

1224
00:56:51,109 --> 00:56:47,200
take a break here in in a couple of uh

1225
00:56:54,390 --> 00:56:51,119
minutes in about two minutes um but uh

1226
00:56:55,750 --> 00:56:54,400
i just moved into uh a new home

1227
00:57:00,630 --> 00:56:55,760
and

1228
00:57:03,270 --> 00:57:00,640
uh i have asked even you the both of you

1229
00:57:05,670 --> 00:57:03,280
but i've asked every uh paranormal

1230
00:57:07,030 --> 00:57:05,680
supernatural ghost hunting expert

1231
00:57:09,270 --> 00:57:07,040
that's been a guest on this show the

1232
00:57:10,829 --> 00:57:09,280
same question over and over again

1233
00:57:13,670 --> 00:57:10,839
um

1234
00:57:14,870 --> 00:57:13,680
should is it okay to ghost hunt in your

1235
00:57:16,710 --> 00:57:14,880
own home

1236
00:57:18,950 --> 00:57:16,720
and the overwhelming answer is

1237
00:57:21,030 --> 00:57:18,960
absolutely not leave it to the

1238
00:57:23,109 --> 00:57:21,040
professionals right okay

1239
00:57:25,030 --> 00:57:23,119
and and that makes a lot of sense to me

1240
00:57:27,190 --> 00:57:25,040
and i think that most of the audience

1241
00:57:29,589 --> 00:57:27,200
totally gets that

1242
00:57:30,470 --> 00:57:29,599
um for me i just don't want to know

1243
00:57:32,789 --> 00:57:30,480
right

1244
00:57:34,789 --> 00:57:32,799
i just don't want to know but

1245
00:57:38,789 --> 00:57:34,799
i've moved into this new home and i've

1246
00:57:40,710 --> 00:57:38,799
got stuff going on from the moment

1247
00:57:45,589 --> 00:57:40,720
that that i got the keys to the place

1248
00:57:46,470 --> 00:57:45,599
and it it it has never really been still

1249
00:57:50,309 --> 00:57:46,480
right

1250
00:57:52,870 --> 00:57:50,319
and because i i live here alone

1251
00:57:54,950 --> 00:57:52,880
i know that and i don't have pets

1252
00:57:57,190 --> 00:57:54,960
so you can automatically cross off a lot

1253
00:57:58,309 --> 00:57:57,200
of things like you know if it's not me

1254
00:58:00,390 --> 00:57:58,319
well then

1255
00:58:03,270 --> 00:58:00,400
and it's not

1256
00:58:04,150 --> 00:58:03,280
it's not not supposed to be anybody else

1257
00:58:05,109 --> 00:58:04,160
here

1258
00:58:08,390 --> 00:58:05,119
right

1259
00:58:11,109 --> 00:58:08,400
so what is going on and then you're left

1260
00:58:13,109 --> 00:58:11,119
with the perplexing question

1261
00:58:14,870 --> 00:58:13,119
do i ghost hunt do i go and try to

1262
00:58:17,990 --> 00:58:14,880
figure out do i walk around and start

1263
00:58:19,910 --> 00:58:18,000
asking questions who is here you know do

1264
00:58:23,430 --> 00:58:19,920
do i do these things

1265
00:58:26,150 --> 00:58:23,440
or do i just let it go

1266
00:58:26,950 --> 00:58:26,160
and and and i'm kind of stuck because i

1267
00:58:28,789 --> 00:58:26,960
know

1268
00:58:31,190 --> 00:58:28,799
physically

1269
00:58:34,390 --> 00:58:31,200
with 100 certainty

1270
00:58:37,190 --> 00:58:34,400
that stuff is flying around this house

1271
00:58:39,109 --> 00:58:37,200
like literally so what do what do i do

1272
00:58:40,549 --> 00:58:39,119
what am i left with

1273
00:58:44,549 --> 00:58:40,559
well

1274
00:58:46,549 --> 00:58:44,559
you unlike 99 of everybody else is when

1275
00:58:48,390 --> 00:58:46,559
something happens that

1276
00:58:49,670 --> 00:58:48,400
they can't explain or don't understand

1277
00:58:52,870 --> 00:58:49,680
the first thing they're going to do is

1278
00:58:55,030 --> 00:58:52,880
deny it until it happens again and again

1279
00:58:56,950 --> 00:58:55,040
and again until they can't deny it

1280
00:58:58,950 --> 00:58:56,960
anymore and then it becomes a reality

1281
00:59:00,710 --> 00:58:58,960
that hey this is occurring

1282
00:59:02,390 --> 00:59:00,720
so you have two choices

1283
00:59:04,390 --> 00:59:02,400
you can either

1284
00:59:07,030 --> 00:59:04,400
just ignore it

1285
00:59:08,870 --> 00:59:07,040
um but the there's a difference between

1286
00:59:11,109 --> 00:59:08,880
what you asked first if you paranormal

1287
00:59:14,230 --> 00:59:11,119
investigate in your own house well it's

1288
00:59:16,309 --> 00:59:14,240
different if you know you have activity

1289
00:59:18,950 --> 00:59:16,319
right it's already there you're not

1290
00:59:21,270 --> 00:59:18,960
gonna call something else in

1291
00:59:23,829 --> 00:59:21,280
you know you have something there to me

1292
00:59:25,750 --> 00:59:23,839
that's a wide open door to say yeah

1293
00:59:28,150 --> 00:59:25,760
let's figure out what this is

1294
00:59:30,150 --> 00:59:28,160
so um

1295
00:59:32,870 --> 00:59:30,160
nothing negative

1296
00:59:36,710 --> 00:59:32,880
right it's not like

1297
00:59:37,910 --> 00:59:36,720
uh i've got uh uh you know uh cuts and

1298
00:59:41,030 --> 00:59:37,920
bruises

1299
00:59:42,309 --> 00:59:41,040
or my bed is shaking and and i'm

1300
00:59:43,430 --> 00:59:42,319
vomiting

1301
00:59:47,589 --> 00:59:43,440
you know

1302
00:59:50,069 --> 00:59:47,599
and my head is spinning on a swivel you

1303
00:59:50,950 --> 00:59:50,079
know it hasn't come to that

1304
00:59:53,349 --> 00:59:50,960
so

1305
00:59:54,870 --> 00:59:53,359
it's not like it's a negative

1306
00:59:58,470 --> 00:59:54,880
environment

1307
01:00:01,910 --> 00:59:58,480
so is that a good thing right is i mean

1308
01:00:03,510 --> 01:00:01,920
it's not it's not a bad thing yet

1309
01:00:06,470 --> 01:00:03,520
no no

1310
01:00:08,069 --> 01:00:06,480
um depending on what exactly is going on

1311
01:00:09,190 --> 01:00:08,079
and just knowing some of the things that

1312
01:00:10,870 --> 01:00:09,200
you said

1313
01:00:12,710 --> 01:00:10,880
um it's

1314
01:00:15,190 --> 01:00:12,720
letting you know it's there

1315
01:00:18,789 --> 01:00:15,200
and but it's doing it discreetly and in

1316
01:00:20,470 --> 01:00:18,799
a manner that won't freak you out um

1317
01:00:21,510 --> 01:00:20,480
because some people do they absolutely

1318
01:00:22,630 --> 01:00:21,520
panic

1319
01:00:24,309 --> 01:00:22,640
and then

1320
01:00:27,190 --> 01:00:24,319
that's not a good environment for

1321
01:00:31,990 --> 01:00:27,200
whoever lives in the house or for the

1322
01:00:35,510 --> 01:00:32,000
spirit that who is also there so what my

1323
01:00:38,470 --> 01:00:35,520
guess is is that it's slowly showing you

1324
01:00:41,109 --> 01:00:38,480
that it's there without just popping up

1325
01:00:42,789 --> 01:00:41,119
in front of your edge your bed at night

1326
01:00:45,670 --> 01:00:42,799
right which would absolutely freak you

1327
01:00:48,630 --> 01:00:45,680
out right it's giving you subtle hints

1328
01:00:50,710 --> 01:00:48,640
over time to allow you to adjust to the

1329
01:00:53,349 --> 01:00:50,720
fact that you are now coming to the

1330
01:00:55,589 --> 01:00:53,359
realization that yes there is something

1331
01:00:57,030 --> 01:00:55,599
here and when you accept that it'll

1332
01:01:01,829 --> 01:00:57,040
probably

1333
01:01:05,589 --> 01:01:01,839
have a quick question for uh jimmy

1334
01:01:09,030 --> 01:01:05,599
before we before we take a break um

1335
01:01:11,910 --> 01:01:09,040
did you have did you research your house

1336
01:01:13,829 --> 01:01:11,920
before you buy or is there any history

1337
01:01:15,910 --> 01:01:13,839
no uh

1338
01:01:20,470 --> 01:01:15,920
relatively new

1339
01:01:21,430 --> 01:01:20,480
um in in a new side of town

1340
01:01:23,910 --> 01:01:21,440
so

1341
01:01:26,309 --> 01:01:23,920
um and this isn't an old town it's

1342
01:01:28,549 --> 01:01:26,319
palmdale you know so it's it's it's new

1343
01:01:30,470 --> 01:01:28,559
it's not hundreds of years old it's 50

1344
01:01:31,190 --> 01:01:30,480
years old you know so

1345
01:01:36,390 --> 01:01:31,200
uh

1346
01:01:38,630 --> 01:01:36,400
reason to do that although that has been

1347
01:01:40,870 --> 01:01:38,640
pointed out to me since then

1348
01:01:43,510 --> 01:01:40,880
you know church why didn't you right i

1349
01:01:45,190 --> 01:01:43,520
was like well and here's the other thing

1350
01:01:46,390 --> 01:01:45,200
i've got 15 seconds

1351
01:01:50,390 --> 01:01:46,400
um

1352
01:01:53,270 --> 01:01:50,400
uh i have with my alarm system here

1353
01:01:54,150 --> 01:01:53,280
i've got motion detectors throughout the

1354
01:01:56,150 --> 01:01:54,160
house

1355
01:01:57,510 --> 01:01:56,160
on the first floor don't have them on

1356
01:01:58,390 --> 01:01:57,520
the second floor

1357
01:02:01,589 --> 01:01:58,400
um

1358
01:02:04,789 --> 01:02:01,599
for whatever reason but but i have uh

1359
01:02:08,230 --> 01:02:04,799
five um in different locations uh

1360
01:02:10,710 --> 01:02:08,240
downstairs i have the option

1361
01:02:13,029 --> 01:02:10,720
to have those on

1362
01:02:14,950 --> 01:02:13,039
while i'm in bed right because it's

1363
01:02:16,150 --> 01:02:14,960
downstairs

1364
01:02:18,069 --> 01:02:16,160
and i won't turn them on

1365
01:02:20,390 --> 01:02:18,079
[Laughter]

1366
01:02:22,549 --> 01:02:20,400
i won't turn them on i don't i do i do

1367
01:02:25,670 --> 01:02:22,559
not want to be

1368
01:02:28,549 --> 01:02:25,680
you know uh 12 midnight in the dark

1369
01:02:30,549 --> 01:02:28,559
watching some crazy scary movie

1370
01:02:32,069 --> 01:02:30,559
and then have a motion detector go on

1371
01:02:34,309 --> 01:02:32,079
downstairs because i'm not going

1372
01:02:35,589 --> 01:02:34,319
downstairs i'm not going down i'm not

1373
01:02:36,630 --> 01:02:35,599
going to go check it out it's not going

1374
01:02:37,430 --> 01:02:36,640
to happen

1375
01:02:38,309 --> 01:02:37,440
so

1376
01:02:39,349 --> 01:02:38,319
uh

1377
01:02:41,349 --> 01:02:39,359
that's

1378
01:02:44,150 --> 01:02:41,359
and i know that you're probably thinking

1379
01:02:45,750 --> 01:02:44,160
church turn them on

1380
01:02:47,349 --> 01:02:45,760
so let's take our break right here this

1381
01:02:49,430 --> 01:02:47,359
is fade to black our guest tonight tony

1382
01:02:51,589 --> 01:02:49,440
and sheree rathman entity voices

1383
01:02:53,109 --> 01:02:51,599
paranormal investigation

1384
01:02:55,029 --> 01:02:53,119
uh we're going to talk about ghost

1385
01:02:56,630 --> 01:02:55,039
hunting here at the house

1386
01:03:00,069 --> 01:02:56,640
and then of course we have a bunch of

1387
01:03:02,069 --> 01:03:00,079
vvps and i want to talk uh about their

1388
01:03:03,910 --> 01:03:02,079
latest investigation that went down last

1389
01:03:05,990 --> 01:03:03,920
weekend all of that and much more coming

1390
01:03:07,829 --> 01:03:06,000
up this is fade to block i'm yours to be

1391
01:03:09,550 --> 01:03:07,839
church stay with us we'll be right back

1392
01:03:27,349 --> 01:03:09,560
after this short break

1393
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:29,510
this is fade to black with jimmy church

1394
01:03:34,549 --> 01:03:33,090
on the game changer radio network

1395
01:03:37,029 --> 01:03:34,559
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1396
01:03:40,470 --> 01:03:37,039
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01:03:49,109 --> 01:03:45,829
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[Music]

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all right welcome back peter black i am

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your host jimmy church tonight tony and

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sheree rathman are with us

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entity voices paranormal investigation

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evpi

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and uh right before the break i was

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telling tony and cherie about this new

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home that i've moved into and

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01:08:46,870 --> 01:08:44,000
and strange stuff is is going on and

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01:08:48,789 --> 01:08:46,880
that is weird the music just

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see

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01:08:55,980 --> 01:08:52,080
about

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that that just stopped on its own

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01:09:00,870 --> 01:08:58,880
[Laughter]

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01:09:03,510 --> 01:09:00,880
what do you know how many times that's

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01:09:06,630 --> 01:09:03,520
happened uh

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live after 2000 shows none i'm gonna

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guess zero zero

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what the

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oh man okay so i'm living in this

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01:09:18,550 --> 01:09:15,600
haunted house

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01:09:21,349 --> 01:09:18,560
two ghosts walk into a bar okay so i

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01:09:23,110 --> 01:09:21,359
have been uh fairly public about some of

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01:09:25,829 --> 01:09:23,120
the things uh that have been going on

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01:09:28,789 --> 01:09:25,839
here not all of it uh but i'm going to

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01:09:30,630 --> 01:09:28,799
discuss the other stuff that i i haven't

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01:09:32,870 --> 01:09:30,640
i haven't revealed at all

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01:09:36,950 --> 01:09:32,880
um with you guys tonight and i want i

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01:09:39,749 --> 01:09:36,960
need your advice and and hopefully

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01:09:42,070 --> 01:09:39,759
the audience will glean something from

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01:09:43,990 --> 01:09:42,080
this too as well and and we can figure

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01:09:45,829 --> 01:09:44,000
out a way to move on now

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01:09:48,550 --> 01:09:45,839
um i've had

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01:09:52,229 --> 01:09:48,560
stuff moving in the house okay i'm not

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01:09:53,269 --> 01:09:52,239
gonna revisit all of that uh

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01:09:55,510 --> 01:09:53,279
there's

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01:09:57,910 --> 01:09:55,520
the audience is gonna go not again okay

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01:09:59,669 --> 01:09:57,920
so i'm not gonna do that but

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01:10:02,390 --> 01:09:59,679
two things

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01:10:05,590 --> 01:10:02,400
have been happening and are still

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01:10:07,990 --> 01:10:05,600
happening and and like

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01:10:09,510 --> 01:10:08,000
like yesterday okay this is is all

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01:10:10,310 --> 01:10:09,520
recent stuff

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01:10:12,229 --> 01:10:10,320
um

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01:10:15,590 --> 01:10:12,239
one thing

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01:10:17,910 --> 01:10:15,600
that started from the day

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01:10:18,870 --> 01:10:17,920
that i moved in

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01:10:22,630 --> 01:10:18,880
is

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01:10:24,310 --> 01:10:22,640
uh i've been seeing

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01:10:26,790 --> 01:10:24,320
like uh

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01:10:28,070 --> 01:10:26,800
i don't want to say a shadow figure but

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01:10:31,110 --> 01:10:28,080
i've been seeing stuff out of my

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01:10:32,470 --> 01:10:31,120
peripheral vision and

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01:10:33,990 --> 01:10:32,480
and

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01:10:35,030 --> 01:10:34,000
to the point where

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01:10:37,910 --> 01:10:35,040
um

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01:10:39,590 --> 01:10:37,920
every time you know i i've i've looked

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01:10:41,669 --> 01:10:39,600
right

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01:10:44,630 --> 01:10:41,679
you know and and i've tried to catch it

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01:10:46,470 --> 01:10:44,640
and i haven't seen anything only

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01:10:49,590 --> 01:10:46,480
only this but

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01:10:51,430 --> 01:10:49,600
um very consistent and like all the time

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01:10:53,110 --> 01:10:51,440
and i've never had this before in my

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01:10:54,950 --> 01:10:53,120
life you know so maybe

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01:10:57,510 --> 01:10:54,960
maybe i've got something going on inside

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01:11:00,070 --> 01:10:57,520
of my eyes maybe there's i've got some

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01:11:01,910 --> 01:11:00,080
kind of chemical imbalance now at my old

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01:11:05,110 --> 01:11:01,920
age it could be that

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01:11:05,990 --> 01:11:05,120
but i am definitely you know and i it

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01:11:12,070 --> 01:11:06,000
and

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01:11:14,870 --> 01:11:12,080
this has been going on like every day

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01:11:18,229 --> 01:11:14,880
and uh to the point now where i i'm

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01:11:19,990 --> 01:11:18,239
almost ignoring it but i'm constantly

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01:11:22,470 --> 01:11:20,000
looking okay

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01:11:25,350 --> 01:11:22,480
all right so

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01:11:27,430 --> 01:11:25,360
um and this has happened uh both

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01:11:31,510 --> 01:11:27,440
upstairs and downstairs

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01:11:34,149 --> 01:11:31,520
so i will be uh lying in bed reading

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01:11:36,390 --> 01:11:34,159
right lights are on right i'm in bed

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01:11:37,990 --> 01:11:36,400
reading and then you know just

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01:11:40,310 --> 01:11:38,000
just

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01:11:42,149 --> 01:11:40,320
out and there's you know there's nothing

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01:11:44,310 --> 01:11:42,159
it's like crazy never had this happen

1573
01:11:45,750 --> 01:11:44,320
before so there's that

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01:11:48,870 --> 01:11:45,760
um

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01:11:51,030 --> 01:11:48,880
the other thing that is happening

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01:11:53,590 --> 01:11:51,040
specifically in one location in the

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01:11:56,790 --> 01:11:53,600
house uh in in the back of the house in

1578
01:11:58,630 --> 01:11:56,800
the family room above the family room

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01:12:00,790 --> 01:11:58,640
is my master bath

1580
01:12:02,709 --> 01:12:00,800
right above

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01:12:06,229 --> 01:12:02,719
and

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01:12:09,350 --> 01:12:06,239
where the couch is in the family room

1583
01:12:12,470 --> 01:12:09,360
directly above my head which would be

1584
01:12:14,550 --> 01:12:12,480
you know like not quite the center but

1585
01:12:16,229 --> 01:12:14,560
uh you know in the

1586
01:12:18,470 --> 01:12:16,239
master bath

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01:12:22,229 --> 01:12:18,480
footsteps

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01:12:24,229 --> 01:12:22,239
right there now i don't uh hear this

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01:12:27,030 --> 01:12:24,239
anywhere else in the house

1590
01:12:29,189 --> 01:12:27,040
right it and and it'll be

1591
01:12:31,510 --> 01:12:29,199
you know and i'm sitting down and and

1592
01:12:32,790 --> 01:12:31,520
just doing whatever and turn on the tv

1593
01:12:34,229 --> 01:12:32,800
i'll be sitting there for you know

1594
01:12:36,070 --> 01:12:34,239
whatever and then all of a sudden you

1595
01:12:38,310 --> 01:12:36,080
know

1596
01:12:40,870 --> 01:12:38,320
right right above my head

1597
01:12:43,030 --> 01:12:40,880
and and we all know

1598
01:12:45,590 --> 01:12:43,040
you know what footsteps sound like

1599
01:12:48,550 --> 01:12:45,600
and now i have not jumped up and run

1600
01:12:52,070 --> 01:12:48,560
upstairs i'm not interested in seeing

1601
01:12:52,950 --> 01:12:52,080
what's going on i don't want to know

1602
01:12:55,590 --> 01:12:52,960
but

1603
01:12:56,870 --> 01:12:55,600
it it's been happening

1604
01:13:00,470 --> 01:12:56,880
so

1605
01:13:02,470 --> 01:13:00,480
is this all tied together um

1606
01:13:04,790 --> 01:13:02,480
and what are the steps

1607
01:13:06,950 --> 01:13:04,800
uh with dealing with this let's let's

1608
01:13:09,750 --> 01:13:06,960
talk about the uh

1609
01:13:11,270 --> 01:13:09,760
let's talk about the the the the thing

1610
01:13:13,270 --> 01:13:11,280
that i'm seeing off

1611
01:13:15,430 --> 01:13:13,280
in my peripheral vision and it's left

1612
01:13:18,550 --> 01:13:15,440
and right it's both it's both sides all

1613
01:13:20,790 --> 01:13:18,560
right well i remember you saying that

1614
01:13:21,750 --> 01:13:20,800
nothing was

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01:13:23,669 --> 01:13:21,760
vicious

1616
01:13:24,950 --> 01:13:23,679
or you weren't being scratched or

1617
01:13:28,550 --> 01:13:24,960
bruised

1618
01:13:31,590 --> 01:13:28,560
what i think is happening is that it is

1619
01:13:33,110 --> 01:13:31,600
very slowly but surely

1620
01:13:35,910 --> 01:13:33,120
letting you know

1621
01:13:38,229 --> 01:13:35,920
something is there without

1622
01:13:41,350 --> 01:13:38,239
instant in your face

1623
01:13:42,870 --> 01:13:41,360
here i am which would freak you out

1624
01:13:45,510 --> 01:13:42,880
so what you're seeing out of the corner

1625
01:13:48,390 --> 01:13:45,520
of your eyes now granted that this is if

1626
01:13:49,270 --> 01:13:48,400
this is paranormal but it's breaking you

1627
01:13:56,149 --> 01:13:49,280
in

1628
01:13:57,270 --> 01:13:56,159
flashes that make you turn your head and

1629
01:13:59,270 --> 01:13:57,280
look

1630
01:14:01,750 --> 01:13:59,280
if it if you turned and it was literally

1631
01:14:05,510 --> 01:14:01,760
standing there staring at you that would

1632
01:14:08,390 --> 01:14:05,520
be overwhelming so it is very slowly

1633
01:14:11,350 --> 01:14:08,400
getting you to adjust

1634
01:14:13,510 --> 01:14:11,360
and accept that there's more going on in

1635
01:14:14,870 --> 01:14:13,520
the house than what you

1636
01:14:16,229 --> 01:14:14,880
were aware of

1637
01:14:19,590 --> 01:14:16,239
and i think

1638
01:14:23,189 --> 01:14:19,600
like i said before once you accept it

1639
01:14:24,149 --> 01:14:23,199
um and can handle it and deal with it it

1640
01:14:28,709 --> 01:14:24,159
will

1641
01:14:30,390 --> 01:14:28,719
the fact that when you were talking

1642
01:14:32,390 --> 01:14:30,400
about being on the queen mary and that

1643
01:14:33,510 --> 01:14:32,400
was one of the very first experiences

1644
01:14:36,149 --> 01:14:33,520
you had

1645
01:14:39,590 --> 01:14:36,159
anybody who has their first one

1646
01:14:40,950 --> 01:14:39,600
always has additional once they feel

1647
01:14:43,270 --> 01:14:40,960
like you

1648
01:14:44,709 --> 01:14:43,280
believe that they're there that they can

1649
01:14:46,550 --> 01:14:44,719
trust you

1650
01:14:48,149 --> 01:14:46,560
more and more keep coming because they

1651
01:14:50,470 --> 01:14:48,159
want to communicate

1652
01:14:52,470 --> 01:14:50,480
that may be the reason because you were

1653
01:14:54,470 --> 01:14:52,480
on the queen mary because your mind

1654
01:14:56,390 --> 01:14:54,480
opened up to that experience

1655
01:14:57,990 --> 01:14:56,400
um or it could just be in your house and

1656
01:14:59,910 --> 01:14:58,000
you were saying well my house isn't old

1657
01:15:02,229 --> 01:14:59,920
well it could be the land it doesn't

1658
01:15:04,709 --> 01:15:02,239
have to be the home right

1659
01:15:08,390 --> 01:15:04,719
right it is the mojave desert

1660
01:15:09,350 --> 01:15:08,400
um right now sheree in your experience

1661
01:15:11,110 --> 01:15:09,360
uh

1662
01:15:12,149 --> 01:15:11,120
you know

1663
01:15:14,950 --> 01:15:12,159
had

1664
01:15:16,390 --> 01:15:14,960
uh lots of experiences going back to

1665
01:15:19,110 --> 01:15:16,400
your childhood

1666
01:15:21,669 --> 01:15:19,120
um tony said flashes of light that's

1667
01:15:24,470 --> 01:15:21,679
that i want to be clear here it's never

1668
01:15:26,630 --> 01:15:24,480
been that it's always been dark it's

1669
01:15:27,430 --> 01:15:26,640
like a dark uh something

1670
01:15:30,550 --> 01:15:27,440
you know

1671
01:15:31,270 --> 01:15:30,560
it's black or dark gray i haven't seen

1672
01:15:33,990 --> 01:15:31,280
it

1673
01:15:37,030 --> 01:15:34,000
dead on so i can't say

1674
01:15:39,510 --> 01:15:37,040
uh with certainty uh

1675
01:15:41,990 --> 01:15:39,520
the color but it's never uh you know

1676
01:15:44,790 --> 01:15:42,000
it's not a flash it's not bright it's

1677
01:15:46,550 --> 01:15:44,800
always you know uh this this dark thing

1678
01:15:48,390 --> 01:15:46,560
and i don't want to say that it's a it's

1679
01:15:49,110 --> 01:15:48,400
a shadow figure because i haven't seen

1680
01:15:52,070 --> 01:15:49,120
it

1681
01:15:52,950 --> 01:15:52,080
i only you know what i mean and i'll see

1682
01:15:58,870 --> 01:15:52,960
the

1683
01:16:01,270 --> 01:15:58,880
um but what do you think is is going on

1684
01:16:03,510 --> 01:16:01,280
well for me i think

1685
01:16:07,189 --> 01:16:03,520
when i was young it's totally different

1686
01:16:09,669 --> 01:16:07,199
now when we started doing invest

1687
01:16:11,189 --> 01:16:09,679
paranormal investigation it's kind of

1688
01:16:12,390 --> 01:16:11,199
like i

1689
01:16:13,750 --> 01:16:12,400
opened

1690
01:16:17,510 --> 01:16:13,760
up myself

1691
01:16:19,110 --> 01:16:17,520
and i oh i think i opened it i opened

1692
01:16:21,830 --> 01:16:19,120
the door

1693
01:16:22,870 --> 01:16:21,840
embrace that there is something

1694
01:16:26,390 --> 01:16:22,880
you know

1695
01:16:29,750 --> 01:16:26,400
spirit exists that's when it started

1696
01:16:33,270 --> 01:16:29,760
like i am like you i can see also

1697
01:16:35,189 --> 01:16:33,280
it's not a shadow but it's like

1698
01:16:37,590 --> 01:16:35,199
movement movement

1699
01:16:39,430 --> 01:16:37,600
silhouette movement on the corner of my

1700
01:16:42,070 --> 01:16:39,440
eyes so

1701
01:16:43,910 --> 01:16:42,080
even i'm in the shower i will see like

1702
01:16:47,270 --> 01:16:43,920
shadow figure

1703
01:16:49,030 --> 01:16:47,280
you know with really yeah

1704
01:16:52,070 --> 01:16:49,040
but not you yeah

1705
01:16:55,510 --> 01:16:52,080
we will discuss that later yeah yeah

1706
01:16:57,350 --> 01:16:55,520
it's something i i'm not sure but i

1707
01:17:00,550 --> 01:16:57,360
think you kind of like

1708
01:17:03,270 --> 01:17:00,560
you open a portal to yourself because

1709
01:17:05,030 --> 01:17:03,280
you were at the queen mary and that's

1710
01:17:09,430 --> 01:17:05,040
when you started

1711
01:17:11,510 --> 01:17:09,440
using the spirit the evox right yes

1712
01:17:13,669 --> 01:17:11,520
yeah it opens the door she's absolutely

1713
01:17:16,229 --> 01:17:13,679
correct and once that door begins to

1714
01:17:19,270 --> 01:17:16,239
open they will push at it to open it

1715
01:17:21,430 --> 01:17:19,280
further because and you never close now

1716
01:17:24,550 --> 01:17:21,440
it doesn't close okay so what do i do

1717
01:17:25,830 --> 01:17:24,560
though is there a way to detect or find

1718
01:17:28,870 --> 01:17:25,840
or see

1719
01:17:30,470 --> 01:17:28,880
yeah there is the the real question what

1720
01:17:32,070 --> 01:17:30,480
it comes down to

1721
01:17:34,870 --> 01:17:32,080
because i've heard you say multiple

1722
01:17:36,790 --> 01:17:34,880
times now you know i hear footsteps i

1723
01:17:38,870 --> 01:17:36,800
don't go up there i don't want to know i

1724
01:17:42,070 --> 01:17:38,880
don't want to see it so what it really

1725
01:17:43,510 --> 01:17:42,080
comes down to is your own personal

1726
01:17:45,910 --> 01:17:43,520
perception

1727
01:17:48,229 --> 01:17:45,920
your own confidence level in maybe

1728
01:17:49,189 --> 01:17:48,239
confronting what's there

1729
01:17:50,709 --> 01:17:49,199
and

1730
01:17:52,229 --> 01:17:50,719
um you know there were some other things

1731
01:17:57,669 --> 01:17:52,239
you said

1732
01:18:00,630 --> 01:17:57,679
you you hear footsteps upstairs and this

1733
01:18:02,790 --> 01:18:00,640
is what time of night uh 10 o'clock 11

1734
01:18:04,550 --> 01:18:02,800
o'clock after the show

1735
01:18:06,470 --> 01:18:04,560
and they're in the bathroom so the first

1736
01:18:07,510 --> 01:18:06,480
thing that tells me also because you

1737
01:18:09,510 --> 01:18:07,520
said

1738
01:18:11,750 --> 01:18:09,520
that it's not aggressive

1739
01:18:14,550 --> 01:18:11,760
and that it appears to be slowly

1740
01:18:16,070 --> 01:18:14,560
breaking you in i'm gonna guess and i'm

1741
01:18:18,149 --> 01:18:16,080
only guessing based off of what you're

1742
01:18:21,430 --> 01:18:18,159
telling me but i'm gonna guess this is a

1743
01:18:23,430 --> 01:18:21,440
female spirit and my reason for saying

1744
01:18:25,189 --> 01:18:23,440
that is because a it's not aggressive

1745
01:18:27,590 --> 01:18:25,199
you were telling me that

1746
01:18:30,070 --> 01:18:27,600
foam core was being moved around foam

1747
01:18:31,750 --> 01:18:30,080
core is very light

1748
01:18:34,390 --> 01:18:31,760
not that it's a difference of a man

1749
01:18:37,590 --> 01:18:34,400
versus a woman but a human spirit

1750
01:18:39,430 --> 01:18:37,600
doesn't have the power to move heavier

1751
01:18:41,590 --> 01:18:39,440
objects if it was demonic you'd have the

1752
01:18:43,110 --> 01:18:41,600
kitchen fridge flying at you not a piece

1753
01:18:44,390 --> 01:18:43,120
of foam core right

1754
01:18:46,790 --> 01:18:44,400
so

1755
01:18:48,470 --> 01:18:46,800
that tells me

1756
01:18:50,470 --> 01:18:48,480
and points me in the direction that this

1757
01:18:51,910 --> 01:18:50,480
is if there whatever is in your house is

1758
01:18:55,110 --> 01:18:51,920
probably a female spirit the other

1759
01:18:57,510 --> 01:18:55,120
reason i say that is because if you're

1760
01:18:59,350 --> 01:18:57,520
sitting underneath the bathroom at 10 11

1761
01:19:00,790 --> 01:18:59,360
at night

1762
01:19:03,910 --> 01:19:00,800
only women

1763
01:19:05,910 --> 01:19:03,920
bathe or shower at night men don't we

1764
01:19:07,270 --> 01:19:05,920
will go to bed

1765
01:19:09,189 --> 01:19:07,280
and we will

1766
01:19:12,070 --> 01:19:09,199
we will shower in the morning before we

1767
01:19:13,669 --> 01:19:12,080
go to work to me to take a bath or a

1768
01:19:15,189 --> 01:19:13,679
shower at night just doesn't seem to

1769
01:19:18,390 --> 01:19:15,199
make any sense because i wake up i want

1770
01:19:19,669 --> 01:19:18,400
to do it again yeah men don't do that

1771
01:19:21,590 --> 01:19:19,679
that's a really good morning so

1772
01:19:22,870 --> 01:19:21,600
whoever's in the bathroom at 10 11

1773
01:19:26,070 --> 01:19:22,880
walking around

1774
01:19:27,830 --> 01:19:26,080
uh possibly showering or bathing

1775
01:19:29,510 --> 01:19:27,840
that tells me you have a female spirit

1776
01:19:31,910 --> 01:19:29,520
in the house and not only that they're

1777
01:19:34,709 --> 01:19:31,920
probably trying to get your attention no

1778
01:19:37,270 --> 01:19:34,719
doubt about it we're here yeah

1779
01:19:38,550 --> 01:19:37,280
they want you to probably communicate

1780
01:19:40,870 --> 01:19:38,560
with them

1781
01:19:43,030 --> 01:19:40,880
yeah they're trying to reach out to you

1782
01:19:44,950 --> 01:19:43,040
who who knows yeah they will they will

1783
01:19:47,189 --> 01:19:44,960
give indications that they want to

1784
01:19:49,030 --> 01:19:47,199
communicate and the fact that stuff that

1785
01:19:51,510 --> 01:19:49,040
you keep a very close eye on is being

1786
01:19:53,910 --> 01:19:51,520
moved and not just falling i mean you're

1787
01:19:55,910 --> 01:19:53,920
finding it in the middle of the room yes

1788
01:19:57,830 --> 01:19:55,920
that that's a clear sign they're trying

1789
01:20:00,229 --> 01:19:57,840
to get your attention and like right now

1790
01:20:02,310 --> 01:20:00,239
we're talking about it they can hear you

1791
01:20:04,229 --> 01:20:02,320
yeah they they know what you're thinking

1792
01:20:05,510 --> 01:20:04,239
what you're doing what's your name yes

1793
01:20:07,990 --> 01:20:05,520
i'm big

1794
01:20:09,189 --> 01:20:08,000
yes yes yes yes

1795
01:20:10,470 --> 01:20:09,199
and uh

1796
01:20:17,350 --> 01:20:10,480
here

1797
01:20:19,270 --> 01:20:17,360
i don't know

1798
01:20:20,310 --> 01:20:19,280
what may be going on in other parts of

1799
01:20:22,470 --> 01:20:20,320
the house

1800
01:20:23,350 --> 01:20:22,480
right i i i don't know because i'm not

1801
01:20:28,390 --> 01:20:23,360
there

1802
01:20:30,470 --> 01:20:28,400
be

1803
01:20:33,189 --> 01:20:30,480
the sound of footsteps

1804
01:20:34,870 --> 01:20:33,199
this is going on directly above my head

1805
01:20:36,709 --> 01:20:34,880
right it's not happening over in the

1806
01:20:39,430 --> 01:20:36,719
kitchen or it's not happening in the

1807
01:20:42,790 --> 01:20:39,440
front room it's not happening no it's

1808
01:20:44,790 --> 01:20:42,800
right where i can hear it and i'm not

1809
01:20:47,270 --> 01:20:44,800
stupid i've i actually sat there and

1810
01:20:48,149 --> 01:20:47,280
thought you know what that's

1811
01:20:50,709 --> 01:20:48,159
that's

1812
01:20:52,950 --> 01:20:50,719
only goes on when i sit here and it's

1813
01:20:55,110 --> 01:20:52,960
it's it's it's right above my head

1814
01:20:57,510 --> 01:20:55,120
that's not a coincidence and i've

1815
01:21:00,070 --> 01:20:57,520
totally recognized that

1816
01:21:03,660 --> 01:21:00,080
right and the footstep is heavy though

1817
01:21:05,030 --> 01:21:03,670
it sounds like oh okay um uh

1818
01:21:07,110 --> 01:21:05,040
[Music]

1819
01:21:09,669 --> 01:21:07,120
man now that tony says

1820
01:21:11,430 --> 01:21:09,679
it could be a woman

1821
01:21:12,550 --> 01:21:11,440
they may be lighter

1822
01:21:15,990 --> 01:21:12,560
but

1823
01:21:18,550 --> 01:21:16,000
it it sounds like um if i

1824
01:21:20,950 --> 01:21:18,560
it doesn't sound like shoes

1825
01:21:25,350 --> 01:21:20,960
okay it doesn't it's so maybe

1826
01:21:26,950 --> 01:21:25,360
uh heavy bare feet kind of sound thuddy

1827
01:21:30,070 --> 01:21:26,960
you know yeah

1828
01:21:32,310 --> 01:21:30,080
you know you know like that and and and

1829
01:21:34,470 --> 01:21:32,320
it's not like one thump it's it's like

1830
01:21:37,830 --> 01:21:34,480
two or three every time

1831
01:21:39,510 --> 01:21:37,840
and this is okay now this is the other

1832
01:21:42,229 --> 01:21:39,520
thought that i had and i know that i'm

1833
01:21:43,030 --> 01:21:42,239
wrong but i'm trying to debunk this

1834
01:21:45,590 --> 01:21:43,040
right

1835
01:21:48,629 --> 01:21:45,600
because i thought i've got a squirrel

1836
01:21:49,669 --> 01:21:48,639
i've got a rodent of some kind

1837
01:21:52,229 --> 01:21:49,679
living

1838
01:21:54,149 --> 01:21:52,239
you know in the rafters right between

1839
01:21:58,070 --> 01:21:54,159
the first and second floor

1840
01:22:02,310 --> 01:21:59,990
and and so

1841
01:22:04,709 --> 01:22:02,320
yeah and i thought but no that's that

1842
01:22:06,470 --> 01:22:04,719
that's a really big creature

1843
01:22:08,709 --> 01:22:06,480
if if that would be the case and i just

1844
01:22:11,830 --> 01:22:08,719
kind of took that off of the list but

1845
01:22:14,709 --> 01:22:11,840
it's it what is happening is is is real

1846
01:22:17,510 --> 01:22:14,719
it's physical and this isn't like

1847
01:22:20,070 --> 01:22:17,520
um oh and here's the other part

1848
01:22:20,950 --> 01:22:20,080
okay and this is for the audience

1849
01:22:25,030 --> 01:22:20,960
um

1850
01:22:27,189 --> 01:22:25,040
i i went outside and i looked

1851
01:22:29,030 --> 01:22:27,199
on the side of the house just to see you

1852
01:22:31,350 --> 01:22:29,040
know maybe he's you know but there's no

1853
01:22:34,550 --> 01:22:31,360
tree there's nothing there

1854
01:22:36,229 --> 01:22:34,560
and there's nothing on the second floor

1855
01:22:38,470 --> 01:22:36,239
right i went around and looked to see if

1856
01:22:40,470 --> 01:22:38,480
there was something hitting the outside

1857
01:22:41,910 --> 01:22:40,480
of the house which clearly that's not

1858
01:22:43,430 --> 01:22:41,920
what was happening

1859
01:22:46,629 --> 01:22:43,440
you know you would hear it come from the

1860
01:22:49,030 --> 01:22:46,639
outside no it's coming from the floor uh

1861
01:22:51,350 --> 01:22:49,040
directly above my head but i had to take

1862
01:22:53,430 --> 01:22:51,360
that off of the list too as well

1863
01:22:56,709 --> 01:22:53,440
just to make sure and

1864
01:22:58,950 --> 01:22:56,719
uh uh the only thing that uh

1865
01:23:00,470 --> 01:22:58,960
there was something making

1866
01:23:03,750 --> 01:23:00,480
thud sounds

1867
01:23:06,629 --> 01:23:03,760
uh in my bathroom at 11 o'clock at night

1868
01:23:07,669 --> 01:23:06,639
and oh okay and here's here's and i've i

1869
01:23:15,750 --> 01:23:07,679
i've

1870
01:23:17,270 --> 01:23:15,760
like ignore this stuff now where

1871
01:23:19,270 --> 01:23:17,280
you know when when something is

1872
01:23:21,350 --> 01:23:19,280
happening and this is a question for the

1873
01:23:23,270 --> 01:23:21,360
audience do you do the same thing

1874
01:23:24,709 --> 01:23:23,280
right these you know because it becomes

1875
01:23:26,149 --> 01:23:24,719
so frequent

1876
01:23:28,629 --> 01:23:26,159
that the shock

1877
01:23:31,270 --> 01:23:28,639
is over right and now

1878
01:23:32,870 --> 01:23:31,280
you're just moving on because when

1879
01:23:35,990 --> 01:23:32,880
you know i'm watching

1880
01:23:39,750 --> 01:23:36,000
uh tv and this happens

1881
01:23:42,629 --> 01:23:39,760
normally i i've stopped looking

1882
01:23:45,669 --> 01:23:42,639
i stop it's not you know in the thud

1883
01:23:46,470 --> 01:23:45,679
from upstairs i don't the the

1884
01:23:50,390 --> 01:23:46,480
the

1885
01:23:51,430 --> 01:23:50,400
that doesn't even come into play anymore

1886
01:23:54,550 --> 01:23:51,440
i just

1887
01:23:55,990 --> 01:23:54,560
i'm like my grandmother that's our ghost

1888
01:23:56,709 --> 01:23:56,000
you know that's our that's our ghost

1889
01:24:01,750 --> 01:23:56,719
that

1890
01:24:05,350 --> 01:24:01,760
i'm it's becoming passe

1891
01:24:09,189 --> 01:24:05,360
yeah well it's becoming passe because

1892
01:24:11,110 --> 01:24:09,199
it wants to probably reveal more to you

1893
01:24:12,870 --> 01:24:11,120
it knows you're going looking on the

1894
01:24:15,910 --> 01:24:12,880
side of the house for tree limbs that

1895
01:24:17,350 --> 01:24:15,920
might be banging it knows you're working

1896
01:24:20,390 --> 01:24:17,360
through the

1897
01:24:22,870 --> 01:24:20,400
the scientific explanations for what

1898
01:24:24,629 --> 01:24:22,880
might be causing it and it also knows

1899
01:24:26,470 --> 01:24:24,639
that you're eventually gonna run out of

1900
01:24:29,590 --> 01:24:26,480
them and then you're gonna have to

1901
01:24:32,149 --> 01:24:29,600
reevaluate what you believe is happening

1902
01:24:32,990 --> 01:24:32,159
exactly so sooner or later that

1903
01:24:36,629 --> 01:24:33,000
that

1904
01:24:38,870 --> 01:24:36,639
crossroads of variables is going to is

1905
01:24:41,590 --> 01:24:38,880
going to happen and the good thing is is

1906
01:24:45,270 --> 01:24:41,600
that it's being patient um it hasn't

1907
01:24:47,110 --> 01:24:45,280
done anything to really make

1908
01:24:49,590 --> 01:24:47,120
have something happen that's so shocking

1909
01:24:51,910 --> 01:24:49,600
that it that it freaks you out so that

1910
01:24:53,750 --> 01:24:51,920
that tells you that it's it's

1911
01:24:55,270 --> 01:24:53,760
definitely a human spirit and my guess

1912
01:24:56,070 --> 01:24:55,280
would be female

1913
01:24:58,390 --> 01:24:56,080
but

1914
01:25:01,270 --> 01:24:58,400
when you when you get to the point

1915
01:25:04,229 --> 01:25:01,280
that you want to know more here's my

1916
01:25:08,149 --> 01:25:04,239
suggestion because the house is big and

1917
01:25:09,750 --> 01:25:08,159
i heard you say it's upstairs

1918
01:25:11,510 --> 01:25:09,760
first of all turn your motion detectors

1919
01:25:13,110 --> 01:25:11,520
on downstairs and see what happens even

1920
01:25:14,790 --> 01:25:13,120
if you don't go look

1921
01:25:16,149 --> 01:25:14,800
see what happens

1922
01:25:18,790 --> 01:25:16,159
two

1923
01:25:21,910 --> 01:25:18,800
set up a camera but instead of trying to

1924
01:25:23,910 --> 01:25:21,920
figure out what room it may be in at

1925
01:25:25,510 --> 01:25:23,920
that time or whether it's upstairs or

1926
01:25:29,750 --> 01:25:25,520
it's downstairs

1927
01:25:31,910 --> 01:25:29,760
put the camera on the stairs why that

1928
01:25:34,229 --> 01:25:31,920
the reason being is because it is the

1929
01:25:37,110 --> 01:25:34,239
only way to get from downstairs to

1930
01:25:39,990 --> 01:25:37,120
upstairs it's a narrow path which can

1931
01:25:41,990 --> 01:25:40,000
easily be picked up by a camera and if

1932
01:25:43,750 --> 01:25:42,000
it's moving around the home which it

1933
01:25:44,709 --> 01:25:43,760
appears to be

1934
01:25:46,950 --> 01:25:44,719
um

1935
01:25:50,950 --> 01:25:46,960
it's got to go up and down the stairs

1936
01:25:53,350 --> 01:25:50,960
that is the only way to cross the levels

1937
01:25:56,229 --> 01:25:53,360
now could it do that without the camera

1938
01:25:58,950 --> 01:25:56,239
even picking it up yeah it could but

1939
01:26:01,030 --> 01:25:58,960
it's the location for your best success

1940
01:26:03,510 --> 01:26:01,040
rate how many haunted houses have we

1941
01:26:05,350 --> 01:26:03,520
been in that the stairwell is always

1942
01:26:06,629 --> 01:26:05,360
active right

1943
01:26:09,110 --> 01:26:06,639
it's always

1944
01:26:11,270 --> 01:26:09,120
so i would put that camera on the stairs

1945
01:26:12,629 --> 01:26:11,280
uh from top to bottom so you can see

1946
01:26:14,550 --> 01:26:12,639
both

1947
01:26:16,709 --> 01:26:14,560
see what happens okay

1948
01:26:20,390 --> 01:26:16,719
you have to be ready to do that

1949
01:26:23,189 --> 01:26:20,400
oh man you know okay so

1950
01:26:25,350 --> 01:26:23,199
so i do it right i i i turn on the

1951
01:26:27,669 --> 01:26:25,360
motion detectors and that is just a bad

1952
01:26:30,149 --> 01:26:27,679
idea but okay

1953
01:26:33,030 --> 01:26:30,159
and and i set up a camera on the stairs

1954
01:26:34,629 --> 01:26:33,040
and then then i capture something

1955
01:26:37,910 --> 01:26:34,639
then what

1956
01:26:41,430 --> 01:26:37,920
do i you know now i'm scared right

1957
01:26:45,430 --> 01:26:41,440
there's that uh do i bring in

1958
01:26:47,270 --> 01:26:45,440
uh an exorcist you know do do i mean

1959
01:26:49,590 --> 01:26:47,280
what then what

1960
01:26:50,550 --> 01:26:49,600
you don't want to say the word scared

1961
01:26:53,030 --> 01:26:50,560
because

1962
01:26:55,110 --> 01:26:53,040
to be honest when you say that they can

1963
01:26:57,350 --> 01:26:55,120
hear you right now they're gonna play

1964
01:26:59,350 --> 01:26:57,360
with you more well only if they're only

1965
01:27:01,030 --> 01:26:59,360
if they're mean and and when i say me

1966
01:27:03,270 --> 01:27:01,040
and i'm not talking demonic that's a

1967
01:27:04,550 --> 01:27:03,280
whole different thing and i don't even

1968
01:27:06,310 --> 01:27:04,560
know if i

1969
01:27:08,870 --> 01:27:06,320
i believe that because we haven't run

1970
01:27:10,070 --> 01:27:08,880
into it in 12 years but um you can get

1971
01:27:12,629 --> 01:27:10,080
some mean

1972
01:27:14,950 --> 01:27:12,639
or disgruntled human spirits but anyway

1973
01:27:16,709 --> 01:27:14,960
probably not mean playful well it

1974
01:27:19,430 --> 01:27:16,719
depends but

1975
01:27:21,189 --> 01:27:19,440
i guess the bottom question jimmy is

1976
01:27:23,110 --> 01:27:21,199
what what you

1977
01:27:25,270 --> 01:27:23,120
what you're willing to find out how much

1978
01:27:27,270 --> 01:27:25,280
you're willing to know and if you're not

1979
01:27:30,070 --> 01:27:27,280
willing to know any of it or don't want

1980
01:27:33,110 --> 01:27:30,080
to know any of it then leave it as it is

1981
01:27:34,950 --> 01:27:33,120
right now or have others investigate

1982
01:27:36,550 --> 01:27:34,960
right or have others check it out for

1983
01:27:37,990 --> 01:27:36,560
you

1984
01:27:40,550 --> 01:27:38,000
yeah yeah

1985
01:27:42,310 --> 01:27:40,560
i've got to get you guys out here we're

1986
01:27:44,470 --> 01:27:42,320
volunteering yeah i've got to get you

1987
01:27:46,950 --> 01:27:44,480
guys out here and this question just

1988
01:27:49,430 --> 01:27:46,960
popped up in uh twitter

1989
01:27:51,830 --> 01:27:49,440
uh jimmy is the master bath near the

1990
01:27:54,390 --> 01:27:51,840
closet with the shoes okay

1991
01:27:56,390 --> 01:27:54,400
and then the answer to that is yes and

1992
01:27:57,510 --> 01:27:56,400
if obviously there is like this

1993
01:27:59,750 --> 01:27:57,520
connection

1994
01:28:01,750 --> 01:27:59,760
because uh when you go into the master

1995
01:28:04,070 --> 01:28:01,760
bath off to the left that's the entrance

1996
01:28:07,270 --> 01:28:04,080
into the walk-in closet where these

1997
01:28:10,149 --> 01:28:07,280
shoes uh want to dance by themselves

1998
01:28:12,149 --> 01:28:10,159
and and that is the master bath that i'm

1999
01:28:13,430 --> 01:28:12,159
hearing these footsteps from while i'm

2000
01:28:16,550 --> 01:28:13,440
downstairs

2001
01:28:19,030 --> 01:28:16,560
uh shoes footsteps

2002
01:28:21,110 --> 01:28:19,040
right okay well there seems to be some

2003
01:28:24,390 --> 01:28:21,120
kind of weird connection there

2004
01:28:27,430 --> 01:28:24,400
um and i've thought about that a lot

2005
01:28:29,669 --> 01:28:27,440
and the other thing is the shoes

2006
01:28:31,030 --> 01:28:29,679
i have chosen not to video i don't want

2007
01:28:32,950 --> 01:28:31,040
to set up the i don't want to see the

2008
01:28:34,950 --> 01:28:32,960
shoes do their thing i don't want to

2009
01:28:36,629 --> 01:28:34,960
know i don't want to see it

2010
01:28:39,510 --> 01:28:36,639
but i have

2011
01:28:41,350 --> 01:28:39,520
heard it and i've heard it twice

2012
01:28:43,830 --> 01:28:41,360
and uh

2013
01:28:45,430 --> 01:28:43,840
uh the first time i don't even think

2014
01:28:46,550 --> 01:28:45,440
i've talked about the second time on the

2015
01:28:49,350 --> 01:28:46,560
show

2016
01:28:53,270 --> 01:28:49,360
or or one or the other but so i'm lying

2017
01:28:55,030 --> 01:28:53,280
in bed and i heard it man that's a thump

2018
01:28:57,270 --> 01:28:55,040
and i was like no

2019
01:29:01,750 --> 01:28:57,280
oh man

2020
01:29:03,590 --> 01:29:01,760
do i get up and go and see the shoes

2021
01:29:07,270 --> 01:29:03,600
or do i just stay here and finish this

2022
01:29:09,030 --> 01:29:07,280
movie right and pull the covers up

2023
01:29:12,229 --> 01:29:09,040
do i just do i

2024
01:29:14,070 --> 01:29:12,239
do i and uh

2025
01:29:15,669 --> 01:29:14,080
get okay you know because i'm alone you

2026
01:29:17,990 --> 01:29:15,679
know it's kids it's

2027
01:29:20,310 --> 01:29:18,000
you know it's fun though it's fun it's

2028
01:29:21,910 --> 01:29:20,320
fun it's like an e-ticket at disneyland

2029
01:29:23,510 --> 01:29:21,920
for sure but

2030
01:29:25,990 --> 01:29:23,520
the second time that this happened this

2031
01:29:27,030 --> 01:29:26,000
is a couple of weeks later and then

2032
01:29:29,030 --> 01:29:27,040
there is

2033
01:29:31,430 --> 01:29:29,040
a thump

2034
01:29:33,910 --> 01:29:31,440
and i get up and i was like come on man

2035
01:29:35,430 --> 01:29:33,920
you know and i and i just walked right

2036
01:29:38,310 --> 01:29:35,440
there right there right in the middle of

2037
01:29:39,350 --> 01:29:38,320
the floor pair of shoes sitting there

2038
01:29:40,390 --> 01:29:39,360
and

2039
01:29:46,390 --> 01:29:40,400
it's

2040
01:29:48,229 --> 01:29:46,400
to uh the bathroom uh the entrance uh to

2041
01:29:50,470 --> 01:29:48,239
the walk-in closet is right there so is

2042
01:29:52,790 --> 01:29:50,480
it all connected well when we come back

2043
01:29:54,149 --> 01:29:52,800
after the break uh let's talk about your

2044
01:29:54,950 --> 01:29:54,159
most recent

2045
01:29:57,669 --> 01:29:54,960
uh

2046
01:29:59,590 --> 01:29:57,679
investigation that happened last weekend

2047
01:30:00,629 --> 01:29:59,600
but i talked about this at the beginning

2048
01:30:02,629 --> 01:30:00,639
of the show

2049
01:30:04,390 --> 01:30:02,639
where today ghosts have been talked

2050
01:30:06,790 --> 01:30:04,400
about for thousands of years we know

2051
01:30:07,830 --> 01:30:06,800
this right that's it it's part of our

2052
01:30:13,910 --> 01:30:07,840
culture

2053
01:30:14,790 --> 01:30:13,920
but today we have the equipment and the

2054
01:30:16,790 --> 01:30:14,800
gear

2055
01:30:19,189 --> 01:30:16,800
to try to figure out what is going on

2056
01:30:21,510 --> 01:30:19,199
and then we also have science and

2057
01:30:24,310 --> 01:30:21,520
physics and the multiverse and parallel

2058
01:30:26,950 --> 01:30:24,320
worlds and entanglement and and non

2059
01:30:27,750 --> 01:30:26,960
location locality these these

2060
01:30:31,510 --> 01:30:27,760
uh

2061
01:30:33,910 --> 01:30:31,520
11 dimensions

2062
01:30:36,070 --> 01:30:33,920
where science is also talking about this

2063
01:30:38,390 --> 01:30:36,080
too so we have all of that that i want

2064
01:30:40,629 --> 01:30:38,400
to discuss after the break this is fade

2065
01:30:44,149 --> 01:30:40,639
to block i'm yours jimmy church tonight

2066
01:30:46,149 --> 01:30:44,159
tony and sheree rathman entity voices

2067
01:30:47,590 --> 01:30:46,159
paranormal investigation

2068
01:30:49,510 --> 01:30:47,600
we'll be right back after this short

2069
01:30:53,530 --> 01:30:49,520
break and we will continue this

2070
01:30:59,380 --> 01:30:53,540
conversation stay with us

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01:30:59,390 --> 01:31:09,910
[Music]

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01:31:17,910 --> 01:31:13,110
way out here we listen to jimmy church

2073
01:31:21,590 --> 01:31:19,990
you're listening to jimmy church and

2074
01:31:26,600 --> 01:31:21,600
fade to black

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01:31:26,610 --> 01:31:38,470
[Applause]

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01:31:42,950 --> 01:31:40,870
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headed do you wonder about the food

2108
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supply i do disruptions in the food

2109
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they usually occur with little warning

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that's why the smartest thing you can do

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2142
01:34:26,390 --> 01:34:23,370
and so does the cia

2143
01:34:31,430 --> 01:34:26,400
[Music]

2144
01:34:35,430 --> 01:34:33,510
you are listening to fate to black with

2145
01:34:38,310 --> 01:34:35,440
jimmy church on the game changing

2146
01:34:43,750 --> 01:34:40,790
hi i'm rhys evans you're listening to

2147
01:34:46,550 --> 01:34:43,760
jimmy church this is revolution the

2148
01:34:49,830 --> 01:34:46,560
revolution will not be televised the

2149
01:34:54,510 --> 01:34:49,840
revolution is on radio

2150
01:35:32,550 --> 01:35:23,680
[Music]

2151
01:35:36,149 --> 01:35:34,149
welcome back fade to black i'm your host

2152
01:35:38,229 --> 01:35:36,159
jimmy church tonight tony and sheree

2153
01:35:40,550 --> 01:35:38,239
rathman are with this entity voices

2154
01:35:44,229 --> 01:35:40,560
paranormal investigation

2155
01:35:46,870 --> 01:35:44,239
and uh they just got back uh so i talked

2156
01:35:48,550 --> 01:35:46,880
to tony last week and he said church man

2157
01:35:50,709 --> 01:35:48,560
we just did this investigation last

2158
01:35:53,430 --> 01:35:50,719
night i said save it for the show i

2159
01:35:56,470 --> 01:35:53,440
don't want to know anything

2160
01:35:58,390 --> 01:35:56,480
uh so now where did you guys uh do your

2161
01:36:02,390 --> 01:35:58,400
investigation

2162
01:36:04,149 --> 01:36:02,400
we're at the uh 1910 globe jail in globe

2163
01:36:06,629 --> 01:36:04,159
arizona

2164
01:36:07,990 --> 01:36:06,639
and who picked the site

2165
01:36:10,070 --> 01:36:08,000
well

2166
01:36:12,149 --> 01:36:10,080
actually rick mccollum from the

2167
01:36:16,310 --> 01:36:12,159
hollywood ghost hunters

2168
01:36:19,830 --> 01:36:16,320
um and i suggested the site it was

2169
01:36:20,629 --> 01:36:19,840
it was a unique experience because

2170
01:36:22,229 --> 01:36:20,639
my

2171
01:36:23,189 --> 01:36:22,239
or our son

2172
01:36:25,350 --> 01:36:23,199
um

2173
01:36:26,470 --> 01:36:25,360
started investigating with us when he

2174
01:36:30,470 --> 01:36:26,480
was

2175
01:36:32,870 --> 01:36:30,480
seven seven years old yeah he's now 15.

2176
01:36:36,229 --> 01:36:32,880
so did we maybe start him a little too

2177
01:36:38,790 --> 01:36:36,239
early yeah we might have but he enjoyed

2178
01:36:40,070 --> 01:36:38,800
it he was never he was never scared he

2179
01:36:43,270 --> 01:36:40,080
was never

2180
01:36:45,430 --> 01:36:43,280
um frightened we were always with him

2181
01:36:47,910 --> 01:36:45,440
but he learned a lot he has the same

2182
01:36:50,310 --> 01:36:47,920
passion yeah he has a similar passion to

2183
01:36:52,709 --> 01:36:50,320
the paranormal and that grew and grew

2184
01:36:54,470 --> 01:36:52,719
and grew and we ran the old phelps dodge

2185
01:36:57,510 --> 01:36:54,480
he was always there

2186
01:37:00,470 --> 01:36:57,520
he would overnight investigate with us

2187
01:37:01,990 --> 01:37:00,480
there he would sleep there till morning

2188
01:37:02,950 --> 01:37:02,000
and investigate

2189
01:37:03,830 --> 01:37:02,960
um

2190
01:37:06,390 --> 01:37:03,840
so

2191
01:37:09,189 --> 01:37:06,400
he wanted to investigate a location he

2192
01:37:12,149 --> 01:37:09,199
hadn't been to before and he said i want

2193
01:37:15,270 --> 01:37:12,159
to investigate with somebody who's had

2194
01:37:17,830 --> 01:37:15,280
years and years and years of experience

2195
01:37:20,149 --> 01:37:17,840
well that's rick mccollum because he

2196
01:37:21,990 --> 01:37:20,159
he's got like 52 years of of

2197
01:37:23,910 --> 01:37:22,000
investigation so

2198
01:37:25,270 --> 01:37:23,920
then the spirit realm network produced

2199
01:37:26,950 --> 01:37:25,280
it live

2200
01:37:28,550 --> 01:37:26,960
and uh

2201
01:37:30,070 --> 01:37:28,560
so it was really the two of them that

2202
01:37:31,910 --> 01:37:30,080
were the main investigators although

2203
01:37:34,390 --> 01:37:31,920
sheree and i had investigated that place

2204
01:37:35,510 --> 01:37:34,400
two or three times prior it's a great

2205
01:37:37,590 --> 01:37:35,520
location

2206
01:37:40,790 --> 01:37:37,600
um and we did run into things i mean we

2207
01:37:43,750 --> 01:37:40,800
got some amazing stuff on the evox um

2208
01:37:44,950 --> 01:37:43,760
just a crazy array of

2209
01:37:46,310 --> 01:37:44,960
voices

2210
01:37:49,430 --> 01:37:46,320
um

2211
01:37:51,510 --> 01:37:49,440
it was it was a great location so

2212
01:37:53,109 --> 01:37:51,520
and the live went went well and they

2213
01:37:55,270 --> 01:37:53,119
both had just

2214
01:37:58,470 --> 01:37:55,280
um a fantastic time doing it because

2215
01:38:01,510 --> 01:37:58,480
that that jail is extremely active

2216
01:38:02,709 --> 01:38:01,520
so it was uh it was a great experience

2217
01:38:06,149 --> 01:38:02,719
and uh

2218
01:38:09,590 --> 01:38:06,159
anything happen anything stand out

2219
01:38:15,030 --> 01:38:11,750
they locked dylan in what was the

2220
01:38:16,629 --> 01:38:15,040
solitary confinement cell not cool not

2221
01:38:18,390 --> 01:38:16,639
cool not cool

2222
01:38:20,390 --> 01:38:18,400
well he was fine with it and then we

2223
01:38:23,430 --> 01:38:20,400
gave him the e-box

2224
01:38:25,350 --> 01:38:23,440
and they were calling out his name in

2225
01:38:27,910 --> 01:38:25,360
just during the time he was in the

2226
01:38:30,870 --> 01:38:27,920
solitary confinement cell i probably

2227
01:38:33,109 --> 01:38:30,880
heard it say dylan three times and it

2228
01:38:35,830 --> 01:38:33,119
called out rick it called out jim it

2229
01:38:37,669 --> 01:38:35,840
called out me multiple times

2230
01:38:40,070 --> 01:38:37,679
and no one was even asking questions

2231
01:38:42,629 --> 01:38:40,080
dylan was talking but not asking

2232
01:38:45,430 --> 01:38:42,639
questions like can you say or say this

2233
01:38:47,430 --> 01:38:45,440
person's name he was just speaking like

2234
01:38:49,990 --> 01:38:47,440
he was saying things like okay this is

2235
01:38:52,870 --> 01:38:50,000
this is where you spent time if you were

2236
01:38:55,270 --> 01:38:52,880
bad um this is a small cell you know

2237
01:38:58,629 --> 01:38:55,280
things and it just it was spitting out

2238
01:39:00,550 --> 01:38:58,639
names left and right in our names not

2239
01:39:02,310 --> 01:39:00,560
not names we didn't know

2240
01:39:03,350 --> 01:39:02,320
um so that was really cool when that

2241
01:39:07,430 --> 01:39:03,360
occurred

2242
01:39:10,470 --> 01:39:07,440
the uh the evox uh you build a lot of

2243
01:39:13,270 --> 01:39:10,480
your own gear and this is uh one of the

2244
01:39:15,350 --> 01:39:13,280
pieces of equipment um

2245
01:39:17,669 --> 01:39:15,360
if you could explain how it works

2246
01:39:20,390 --> 01:39:17,679
because it's different

2247
01:39:22,709 --> 01:39:20,400
some of i i'm not going to

2248
01:39:24,470 --> 01:39:22,719
get specific here uh because i don't

2249
01:39:26,790 --> 01:39:24,480
want to irritate anybody but some of

2250
01:39:29,669 --> 01:39:26,800
that stuff is hard for me to listen to

2251
01:39:30,709 --> 01:39:29,679
especially on tv where you just got you

2252
01:39:36,550 --> 01:39:30,719
know

2253
01:39:38,149 --> 01:39:36,560
what happens with the evox it it it's

2254
01:39:41,109 --> 01:39:38,159
only talking when

2255
01:39:43,350 --> 01:39:41,119
when when it's got something to say and

2256
01:39:45,430 --> 01:39:43,360
right and it freaked me out because

2257
01:39:46,870 --> 01:39:45,440
we're sitting there in the dead silence

2258
01:39:49,669 --> 01:39:46,880
you know and you got this box going

2259
01:39:52,390 --> 01:39:49,679
church get out you know

2260
01:39:54,709 --> 01:39:52,400
and you jump back uh because

2261
01:39:56,470 --> 01:39:54,719
it's it's you don't even know that it's

2262
01:39:58,629 --> 01:39:56,480
running because you can't hear it so

2263
01:40:02,390 --> 01:39:58,639
what is the evox

2264
01:40:05,350 --> 01:40:02,400
well the evox was when we first started

2265
01:40:08,390 --> 01:40:05,360
getting unbelievably interested in evps

2266
01:40:10,149 --> 01:40:08,400
we moved on to spirit boxes because we

2267
01:40:11,910 --> 01:40:10,159
wanted to find a way to have that real

2268
01:40:13,669 --> 01:40:11,920
time communication

2269
01:40:16,229 --> 01:40:13,679
so we started out with something simple

2270
01:40:18,550 --> 01:40:16,239
we started with the sb7 which is used by

2271
01:40:19,910 --> 01:40:18,560
every paranormal investigator around the

2272
01:40:21,350 --> 01:40:19,920
globe

2273
01:40:23,990 --> 01:40:21,360
and they work

2274
01:40:26,950 --> 01:40:24,000
the problem is though is that the white

2275
01:40:29,590 --> 01:40:26,960
noise is so overwhelming

2276
01:40:31,350 --> 01:40:29,600
that it is terribly difficult to hear

2277
01:40:33,030 --> 01:40:31,360
the responses

2278
01:40:34,229 --> 01:40:33,040
and so one of the first things i said to

2279
01:40:36,629 --> 01:40:34,239
sheree was

2280
01:40:39,030 --> 01:40:36,639
there's answers here and then i went

2281
01:40:41,109 --> 01:40:39,040
through recording after recording after

2282
01:40:44,950 --> 01:40:41,119
recording and i said sheree they

2283
01:40:48,629 --> 01:40:44,960
answered 90 of our questions it's just

2284
01:40:50,470 --> 01:40:48,639
really hard to hear over the white noise

2285
01:40:53,910 --> 01:40:50,480
so i said i'm gonna find a way to clean

2286
01:40:56,870 --> 01:40:53,920
this up so we built the first evox which

2287
01:40:59,590 --> 01:40:56,880
was really just kind of a sound

2288
01:41:02,870 --> 01:40:59,600
dampening uh device

2289
01:41:04,390 --> 01:41:02,880
that would take the sp7 and

2290
01:41:05,590 --> 01:41:04,400
lower the

2291
01:41:15,270 --> 01:41:05,600
the

2292
01:41:16,070 --> 01:41:15,280
coming through and it worked relatively

2293
01:41:18,629 --> 01:41:16,080
well

2294
01:41:20,470 --> 01:41:18,639
but on our last version that we built we

2295
01:41:21,430 --> 01:41:20,480
said okay i want to take the steps

2296
01:41:22,229 --> 01:41:21,440
further

2297
01:41:25,669 --> 01:41:22,239
we

2298
01:41:28,310 --> 01:41:25,679
took out the white noise completely this

2299
01:41:30,550 --> 01:41:28,320
thing can be on and unless someone's

2300
01:41:32,870 --> 01:41:30,560
speaking you wouldn't even know it's on

2301
01:41:36,149 --> 01:41:32,880
right it is dead silent right

2302
01:41:38,790 --> 01:41:36,159
and that is such a relief

2303
01:41:42,229 --> 01:41:38,800
when you have to listen to hours

2304
01:41:44,310 --> 01:41:42,239
upon hours of spirit box being run over

2305
01:41:46,870 --> 01:41:44,320
a weekend or a week investigation

2306
01:41:49,910 --> 01:41:46,880
especially when you're editing it's easy

2307
01:41:51,910 --> 01:41:49,920
for us to you know catch the voice right

2308
01:41:54,070 --> 01:41:51,920
you can mut you can hear the voice clear

2309
01:41:56,790 --> 01:41:54,080
as a bell the white noise is still

2310
01:41:59,669 --> 01:41:56,800
available for them to use meaning the

2311
01:42:02,390 --> 01:41:59,679
spirits to use and manipulate

2312
01:42:05,109 --> 01:42:02,400
we just made it so it's not audible

2313
01:42:07,510 --> 01:42:05,119
through the speakers so

2314
01:42:09,590 --> 01:42:07,520
there's electronic components in there

2315
01:42:11,830 --> 01:42:09,600
that remove it

2316
01:42:15,910 --> 01:42:11,840
and then what we did was because it does

2317
01:42:17,189 --> 01:42:15,920
scan radio frequencies we took the top

2318
01:42:18,750 --> 01:42:17,199
20

2319
01:42:21,550 --> 01:42:18,760
known radio

2320
01:42:26,149 --> 01:42:21,560
101.1 or 0.5

2321
01:42:29,750 --> 01:42:26,159
94.5 and we removed them meaning that

2322
01:42:31,430 --> 01:42:29,760
when it scans when it when it climbs to

2323
01:42:33,189 --> 01:42:31,440
those numbers where it's going to hit a

2324
01:42:34,950 --> 01:42:33,199
radio station

2325
01:42:37,669 --> 01:42:34,960
the ones we programmed and it skips

2326
01:42:41,030 --> 01:42:37,679
right over so you're not going to hear

2327
01:42:43,669 --> 01:42:41,040
at circle k or or you know refinance

2328
01:42:45,910 --> 01:42:43,679
your car today we don't hear any of that

2329
01:42:48,390 --> 01:42:45,920
so it skips known radio stations then we

2330
01:42:50,390 --> 01:42:48,400
broaden the band so instead of going

2331
01:42:51,070 --> 01:42:50,400
from just 88.6

2332
01:42:54,310 --> 01:42:51,080
to

2333
01:42:56,709 --> 01:42:54,320
107.9 we increased it on both sides

2334
01:42:57,590 --> 01:42:56,719
probably 25 or 30

2335
01:43:00,390 --> 01:42:57,600
um

2336
01:43:03,189 --> 01:43:00,400
station lengths to

2337
01:43:06,229 --> 01:43:03,199
increase the length of of radio wave

2338
01:43:09,350 --> 01:43:06,239
frequency that the box can scan through

2339
01:43:11,910 --> 01:43:09,360
outside of the uh the broadcast spectrum

2340
01:43:15,109 --> 01:43:11,920
correct outside of the fcc broadcast

2341
01:43:17,990 --> 01:43:15,119
spectrum that is assigned to

2342
01:43:21,270 --> 01:43:18,000
radio stations right okay uh that makes

2343
01:43:24,870 --> 01:43:21,280
a lot of sense and uh now

2344
01:43:27,990 --> 01:43:24,880
uh um in this investigation uh did you

2345
01:43:29,669 --> 01:43:28,000
guys bring video uh equipment to as well

2346
01:43:33,590 --> 01:43:29,679
we did we brought

2347
01:43:36,550 --> 01:43:33,600
parabolic mics we had hand-held video

2348
01:43:38,629 --> 01:43:36,560
and of course it was being shown live so

2349
01:43:40,709 --> 01:43:38,639
the professional cameras that were

2350
01:43:43,350 --> 01:43:40,719
pumping out the satellite signal or not

2351
01:43:46,950 --> 01:43:43,360
satellite wi-fi

2352
01:43:49,030 --> 01:43:46,960
cellular signal uh to send it out so

2353
01:43:51,109 --> 01:43:49,040
it hasn't been reposted yet the live

2354
01:43:53,510 --> 01:43:51,119
went out i'm waiting for the repost

2355
01:43:56,629 --> 01:43:53,520
because we know some things happened we

2356
01:43:58,790 --> 01:43:56,639
know we heard things that at the moment

2357
01:44:00,790 --> 01:43:58,800
when it happened we weren't we didn't

2358
01:44:03,030 --> 01:44:00,800
have recorders running so we're hoping

2359
01:44:04,470 --> 01:44:03,040
it's on the live and it was even called

2360
01:44:06,950 --> 01:44:04,480
out when it happened oh my god did you

2361
01:44:08,390 --> 01:44:06,960
hear that what was that uh we had

2362
01:44:10,709 --> 01:44:08,400
unbelievable

2363
01:44:12,070 --> 01:44:10,719
uh k2 and

2364
01:44:15,830 --> 01:44:12,080
rempod

2365
01:44:18,070 --> 01:44:15,840
uh going off in the in the mail cell we

2366
01:44:20,310 --> 01:44:18,080
had um

2367
01:44:22,149 --> 01:44:20,320
the whole thing k2 and stuff going on in

2368
01:44:25,270 --> 01:44:22,159
the women's ward

2369
01:44:27,750 --> 01:44:25,280
um it was it was a really really

2370
01:44:30,149 --> 01:44:27,760
cool investigation as far as what we

2371
01:44:31,990 --> 01:44:30,159
didn't get a lot of though were evps now

2372
01:44:33,990 --> 01:44:32,000
i haven't listened to the parabolic mic

2373
01:44:35,990 --> 01:44:34,000
yet which i need to do but that probably

2374
01:44:37,910 --> 01:44:36,000
won't happen until this weekend but i

2375
01:44:40,629 --> 01:44:37,920
probably have four

2376
01:44:43,350 --> 01:44:40,639
four plus hours of recording through the

2377
01:44:45,430 --> 01:44:43,360
parabola how long does it take you uh

2378
01:44:47,109 --> 01:44:45,440
because we're going to get to these evps

2379
01:44:50,550 --> 01:44:47,119
here in just a minute

2380
01:44:52,310 --> 01:44:50,560
um obviously the evps are recorded in

2381
01:44:54,790 --> 01:44:52,320
real time so you have to listen to them

2382
01:44:55,669 --> 01:44:54,800
in real time and if you have

2383
01:44:56,950 --> 01:44:55,679
maybe

2384
01:44:59,430 --> 01:44:56,960
multiple

2385
01:45:00,870 --> 01:44:59,440
uh recordings being done

2386
01:45:04,550 --> 01:45:00,880
and you've done an eight hour

2387
01:45:06,229 --> 01:45:04,560
investigation are we talking about 72

2388
01:45:09,030 --> 01:45:06,239
hours of

2389
01:45:09,990 --> 01:45:09,040
of sitting and listening to files

2390
01:45:12,149 --> 01:45:10,000
yup

2391
01:45:14,310 --> 01:45:12,159
the more recorders you run because an

2392
01:45:16,550 --> 01:45:14,320
evp can show up on one recorder it can

2393
01:45:17,910 --> 01:45:16,560
show up on all recorders

2394
01:45:20,709 --> 01:45:17,920
so you have to go through every single

2395
01:45:22,310 --> 01:45:20,719
one so if i've placed four recorders for

2396
01:45:24,870 --> 01:45:22,320
two hours each

2397
01:45:27,350 --> 01:45:24,880
in four different rooms i've got eight

2398
01:45:30,310 --> 01:45:27,360
hours of audio to go through and and

2399
01:45:33,910 --> 01:45:30,320
cherie uh who's better at at listening

2400
01:45:35,830 --> 01:45:33,920
to the files you were tony

2401
01:45:38,229 --> 01:45:35,840
yeah i i figured

2402
01:45:39,830 --> 01:45:38,239
and and and what do you listen for she

2403
01:45:42,310 --> 01:45:39,840
raised her hand you know that's bad

2404
01:45:44,149 --> 01:45:42,320
radio you're supposed to say me yeah you

2405
01:45:48,310 --> 01:45:44,159
gotta speak out yeah you got to it's me

2406
01:45:49,350 --> 01:45:48,320
it's me um what what do you listen for

2407
01:45:52,470 --> 01:45:49,360
well

2408
01:45:54,709 --> 01:45:52,480
we listen to the

2409
01:45:57,590 --> 01:45:54,719
there's a there's some you can tell

2410
01:45:59,430 --> 01:45:57,600
whether it's a disembodied voice

2411
01:46:01,189 --> 01:45:59,440
a whisper

2412
01:46:02,950 --> 01:46:01,199
behind or

2413
01:46:05,189 --> 01:46:02,960
if there's a

2414
01:46:08,070 --> 01:46:05,199
um what is this

2415
01:46:10,229 --> 01:46:08,080
well what is disembodied

2416
01:46:12,470 --> 01:46:10,239
disembodied has a different sound to it

2417
01:46:14,470 --> 01:46:12,480
if you listen to a human speaking

2418
01:46:17,109 --> 01:46:14,480
who's using their larnix using their

2419
01:46:19,830 --> 01:46:17,119
throat to create a sound wave that's

2420
01:46:20,790 --> 01:46:19,840
interpreted by the microphone

2421
01:46:23,109 --> 01:46:20,800
um

2422
01:46:25,430 --> 01:46:23,119
that sounds different than what she's

2423
01:46:26,470 --> 01:46:25,440
calling a disembodied voice or a spirit

2424
01:46:27,750 --> 01:46:26,480
voice

2425
01:46:30,070 --> 01:46:27,760
where

2426
01:46:31,590 --> 01:46:30,080
i doubt the mic was ever even used

2427
01:46:34,149 --> 01:46:31,600
because the spirit's not going to create

2428
01:46:37,030 --> 01:46:34,159
a sound wave it's going to transfer that

2429
01:46:40,709 --> 01:46:37,040
message directly to the machine and they

2430
01:46:44,070 --> 01:46:40,719
do not sound the same okay so

2431
01:46:46,390 --> 01:46:44,080
when that that voice that we heard on

2432
01:46:49,109 --> 01:46:46,400
the queen mary

2433
01:46:50,390 --> 01:46:49,119
that wasn't captured on evp that wasn't

2434
01:46:53,109 --> 01:46:50,400
a recording that was something that we

2435
01:46:55,590 --> 01:46:53,119
heard is that a disembodied voice

2436
01:46:58,149 --> 01:46:55,600
it's a disembodied voice but it had to

2437
01:46:59,750 --> 01:46:58,159
it had to have a way

2438
01:47:02,709 --> 01:46:59,760
to create

2439
01:47:05,030 --> 01:47:02,719
a physical sound wave right or our ears

2440
01:47:07,510 --> 01:47:05,040
wouldn't have heard it that's correct

2441
01:47:10,550 --> 01:47:07,520
so therefore

2442
01:47:11,910 --> 01:47:10,560
it's still disembodied because it didn't

2443
01:47:14,790 --> 01:47:11,920
come from any

2444
01:47:17,510 --> 01:47:14,800
human in the room it came from somebody

2445
01:47:19,430 --> 01:47:17,520
else or some other spirit right but it

2446
01:47:21,030 --> 01:47:19,440
was able to create and you know if

2447
01:47:23,510 --> 01:47:21,040
spirits are truly energy there is

2448
01:47:25,830 --> 01:47:23,520
absolutely no reason why they can't

2449
01:47:27,669 --> 01:47:25,840
create a sound wave to flow through our

2450
01:47:29,030 --> 01:47:27,679
environment that our ears can pick up i

2451
01:47:30,390 --> 01:47:29,040
mean that

2452
01:47:33,030 --> 01:47:30,400
makes more than

2453
01:47:36,470 --> 01:47:33,040
more than sense yeah and and

2454
01:47:38,390 --> 01:47:36,480
in a general way of looking at this an

2455
01:47:41,590 --> 01:47:38,400
evp

2456
01:47:45,109 --> 01:47:41,600
is only captured digitally

2457
01:47:47,590 --> 01:47:45,119
and wasn't necessarily heard by the ears

2458
01:47:51,189 --> 01:47:47,600
of everybody there right correct and you

2459
01:47:53,430 --> 01:47:51,199
don't get the answer until you review

2460
01:47:55,750 --> 01:47:53,440
the digital recording which takes me

2461
01:47:57,350 --> 01:47:55,760
back to you cherie

2462
01:47:59,910 --> 01:47:57,360
you've got a question that you're

2463
01:48:03,109 --> 01:47:59,920
listening to right somebody is asking a

2464
01:48:06,390 --> 01:48:03,119
question and then you're listening for a

2465
01:48:07,189 --> 01:48:06,400
response in this file right

2466
01:48:08,550 --> 01:48:07,199
okay

2467
01:48:11,109 --> 01:48:08,560
yes yes

2468
01:48:14,550 --> 01:48:11,119
and and and are you listening for

2469
01:48:17,830 --> 01:48:14,560
something low in volume or are are they

2470
01:48:20,709 --> 01:48:17,840
louder do you have to enhance the file

2471
01:48:23,990 --> 01:48:20,719
how do you hear well i mean i'm sure i

2472
01:48:25,910 --> 01:48:24,000
guess what i'm asking is sometimes

2473
01:48:27,750 --> 01:48:25,920
uh somebody that doesn't know what

2474
01:48:29,030 --> 01:48:27,760
they're listening for would never even

2475
01:48:32,629 --> 01:48:29,040
hear it

2476
01:48:34,310 --> 01:48:32,639
right so you have to be listening

2477
01:48:36,070 --> 01:48:34,320
and it doesn't have to the response

2478
01:48:37,750 --> 01:48:36,080
isn't necessarily right after the

2479
01:48:40,229 --> 01:48:37,760
question it could be later on in the

2480
01:48:41,910 --> 01:48:40,239
file exactly and so what are you

2481
01:48:44,629 --> 01:48:41,920
listening for in that file that's going

2482
01:48:47,669 --> 01:48:44,639
to cause you to stop and go i think we

2483
01:48:49,430 --> 01:48:47,679
have something here well first of all of

2484
01:48:51,270 --> 01:48:49,440
course we have to

2485
01:48:52,950 --> 01:48:51,280
i have to listen first

2486
01:48:55,350 --> 01:48:52,960
what was the question

2487
01:48:58,149 --> 01:48:55,360
and then throughout if there's no

2488
01:48:59,430 --> 01:48:58,159
response and then

2489
01:49:00,550 --> 01:48:59,440
you'll hear

2490
01:49:03,910 --> 01:49:00,560
more

2491
01:49:07,030 --> 01:49:03,920
voices in there whether that would be an

2492
01:49:09,910 --> 01:49:07,040
answer to that question so sometimes

2493
01:49:12,390 --> 01:49:09,920
it's hard whether hey i ask him

2494
01:49:15,430 --> 01:49:12,400
sometimes i hear this

2495
01:49:17,430 --> 01:49:15,440
um let's just say it mentioned some some

2496
01:49:21,669 --> 01:49:17,440
names so

2497
01:49:29,910 --> 01:49:24,870
a response to the question because you

2498
01:49:36,229 --> 01:49:33,350
a spirit answering you responding to you

2499
01:49:38,950 --> 01:49:36,239
you can tell by your question and the

2500
01:49:41,430 --> 01:49:38,960
answer yeah but that's that but you're

2501
01:49:44,709 --> 01:49:41,440
listening all over the spectrum they can

2502
01:49:45,589 --> 01:49:44,719
be low tone whispers they can be high

2503
01:49:49,350 --> 01:49:45,599
tone

2504
01:49:51,589 --> 01:49:49,360
they can be at two three times a normal

2505
01:49:53,030 --> 01:49:51,599
human speech pattern where the words

2506
01:49:55,910 --> 01:49:53,040
come by so fast you're not even sure

2507
01:49:58,550 --> 01:49:55,920
what was said right on the first listen

2508
01:50:00,550 --> 01:49:58,560
to it they can come in in reverse

2509
01:50:03,030 --> 01:50:00,560
they can you have to literally and

2510
01:50:05,030 --> 01:50:03,040
that's why anytime we're reviewing we

2511
01:50:07,990 --> 01:50:05,040
put it through audio software that

2512
01:50:10,870 --> 01:50:08,000
brings up an audio graph that allows us

2513
01:50:13,109 --> 01:50:10,880
to not only hear it but to see what's

2514
01:50:15,270 --> 01:50:13,119
going on in the waveform because there's

2515
01:50:16,229 --> 01:50:15,280
times that i can without even looking at

2516
01:50:27,270 --> 01:50:16,239
the

2517
01:50:29,430 --> 01:50:27,280
tonality yeah right right and it's so

2518
01:50:31,589 --> 01:50:29,440
shari since you're the expert

2519
01:50:33,910 --> 01:50:31,599
uh i'm not the expert

2520
01:50:34,870 --> 01:50:33,920
what i find interesting no such thing

2521
01:50:37,589 --> 01:50:34,880
because

2522
01:50:40,229 --> 01:50:37,599
um i deal with wave forms every day

2523
01:50:42,229 --> 01:50:40,239
right and i'm looking at them and i know

2524
01:50:43,270 --> 01:50:42,239
where to go where to grab what to edit

2525
01:50:45,189 --> 01:50:43,280
you know and

2526
01:50:48,070 --> 01:50:45,199
you're used to

2527
01:50:50,070 --> 01:50:48,080
seeing what you're seeing right and uh

2528
01:50:53,030 --> 01:50:50,080
high frequency low frequency you can see

2529
01:50:55,109 --> 01:50:53,040
all that of course volume um

2530
01:50:57,589 --> 01:50:55,119
so are you are you able to do that now

2531
01:50:59,510 --> 01:50:57,599
look at a waveform and go ah there's the

2532
01:51:01,030 --> 01:50:59,520
answer you don't even have to listen to

2533
01:51:03,910 --> 01:51:01,040
the other part of the waveform right are

2534
01:51:06,149 --> 01:51:03,920
you able to just uh visually see it and

2535
01:51:07,350 --> 01:51:06,159
then go and listen

2536
01:51:09,350 --> 01:51:07,360
yes

2537
01:51:11,830 --> 01:51:09,360
sometimes you can you i don't have to

2538
01:51:12,629 --> 01:51:11,840
look at the graph i know already that's

2539
01:51:18,790 --> 01:51:12,639
the

2540
01:51:21,430 --> 01:51:18,800
graph too

2541
01:51:24,629 --> 01:51:21,440
because some outside noise may affect it

2542
01:51:26,470 --> 01:51:24,639
or um and they don't all edps don't come

2543
01:51:28,709 --> 01:51:26,480
in the same shape or the same form or

2544
01:51:31,430 --> 01:51:28,719
the same frequency we've been trying to

2545
01:51:33,990 --> 01:51:31,440
narrow down the frequency evp has come

2546
01:51:35,990 --> 01:51:34,000
in at for the last 10 years and still

2547
01:51:38,709 --> 01:51:36,000
when we've narrowed it but not even

2548
01:51:41,350 --> 01:51:38,719
close to being able to identify yeah and

2549
01:51:43,350 --> 01:51:41,360
sometimes it's hard to understand

2550
01:51:46,390 --> 01:51:43,360
especially like

2551
01:51:47,830 --> 01:51:46,400
we argue all the time what it's been

2552
01:51:49,270 --> 01:51:47,840
said yes

2553
01:51:51,510 --> 01:51:49,280
yes those are the ones that go in the

2554
01:51:54,550 --> 01:51:51,520
trash but yeah some of our worst fights

2555
01:51:58,790 --> 01:51:54,560
have been over what evps have said well

2556
01:52:00,950 --> 01:51:58,800
there was a moment uh uh i was with uh

2557
01:52:04,390 --> 01:52:00,960
our friend susan slaughter

2558
01:52:07,189 --> 01:52:04,400
yeah and and the three of us uh

2559
01:52:08,870 --> 01:52:07,199
there was a another investigator there

2560
01:52:12,149 --> 01:52:08,880
that was uh

2561
01:52:14,950 --> 01:52:12,159
running the digital recorder okay so

2562
01:52:17,189 --> 01:52:14,960
it's myself susan and this third party

2563
01:52:18,470 --> 01:52:17,199
and we're in this dark hallway

2564
01:52:21,910 --> 01:52:18,480
underground

2565
01:52:22,629 --> 01:52:21,920
again you know the the perfect setup for

2566
01:52:25,750 --> 01:52:22,639
for

2567
01:52:28,629 --> 01:52:25,760
the dark

2568
01:52:30,950 --> 01:52:28,639
and um there were cameras there so there

2569
01:52:32,870 --> 01:52:30,960
was some a little bit of ambient light

2570
01:52:35,350 --> 01:52:32,880
but we're basically in the dark

2571
01:52:36,870 --> 01:52:35,360
and we're doing this evp session

2572
01:52:38,470 --> 01:52:36,880
and

2573
01:52:46,629 --> 01:52:38,480
as

2574
01:52:47,430 --> 01:52:46,639
so quiet because we're underground right

2575
01:52:49,189 --> 01:52:47,440
and

2576
01:52:52,310 --> 01:52:49,199
we're in this dark

2577
01:52:54,629 --> 01:52:52,320
and so i asked some question

2578
01:52:57,270 --> 01:52:54,639
and whatever it is is there evidence in

2579
01:52:59,189 --> 01:52:57,280
this box that you're here and

2580
01:53:00,629 --> 01:52:59,199
and you committed a crime whatever right

2581
01:53:03,109 --> 01:53:00,639
there's my question

2582
01:53:05,430 --> 01:53:03,119
and and we pause for like 15 seconds

2583
01:53:07,270 --> 01:53:05,440
real quiet right

2584
01:53:11,109 --> 01:53:07,280
and he plays it back

2585
01:53:13,830 --> 01:53:11,119
and man there were i could not believe

2586
01:53:15,750 --> 01:53:13,840
and what was on this recorder you know

2587
01:53:18,149 --> 01:53:15,760
you know with with the with the little

2588
01:53:20,950 --> 01:53:18,159
speaker plays it back no is there

2589
01:53:23,589 --> 01:53:20,960
evidence in in this box and the response

2590
01:53:24,709 --> 01:53:23,599
was like absolutely church whatever what

2591
01:53:26,550 --> 01:53:24,719
but it was just

2592
01:53:29,270 --> 01:53:26,560
it was

2593
01:53:30,950 --> 01:53:29,280
and and we were

2594
01:53:33,669 --> 01:53:30,960
purposefully

2595
01:53:36,070 --> 01:53:33,679
silent for like 15 seconds

2596
01:53:37,109 --> 01:53:36,080
and and to hear it come back recorded

2597
01:53:39,189 --> 01:53:37,119
like that

2598
01:53:41,910 --> 01:53:39,199
and i mean i'm looking at susan she's

2599
01:53:43,350 --> 01:53:41,920
laughing i'm i'm losing my mind

2600
01:53:45,030 --> 01:53:43,360
but um

2601
01:53:47,589 --> 01:53:45,040
just like you guys do this all the time

2602
01:53:50,709 --> 01:53:47,599
right but when you see it happen

2603
01:53:51,990 --> 01:53:50,719
and you hear it happen it changes you i

2604
01:53:53,589 --> 01:53:52,000
mean it really

2605
01:53:55,910 --> 01:53:53,599
forces you to have a whole another

2606
01:53:57,990 --> 01:53:55,920
perspective on this that this stuff is a

2607
01:53:59,430 --> 01:53:58,000
reality and we've just got to figure out

2608
01:54:01,669 --> 01:53:59,440
what's going on

2609
01:54:03,510 --> 01:54:01,679
so yeah let's get this through let's get

2610
01:54:04,790 --> 01:54:03,520
to some of these evps let me see what i

2611
01:54:06,229 --> 01:54:04,800
got here

2612
01:54:09,510 --> 01:54:06,239
and uh

2613
01:54:11,750 --> 01:54:09,520
and not in any particular or can i just

2614
01:54:13,589 --> 01:54:11,760
pick these out at random yep and you'll

2615
01:54:14,870 --> 01:54:13,599
know what i'm talking about by just

2616
01:54:16,470 --> 01:54:14,880
saying it okay

2617
01:54:18,629 --> 01:54:16,480
all right um

2618
01:54:20,149 --> 01:54:18,639
now i haven't listened to any of these i

2619
01:54:22,390 --> 01:54:20,159
did this on purpose so i don't have

2620
01:54:25,669 --> 01:54:22,400
audio levels or anything

2621
01:54:28,790 --> 01:54:25,679
um i'm that's for the audience so we

2622
01:54:31,910 --> 01:54:28,800
just let me get this set up um

2623
01:54:38,790 --> 01:54:35,589
are you scared to meet christ

2624
01:54:50,470 --> 01:54:38,800
can can i play this one yep okay here we

2625
01:54:56,680 --> 01:54:52,470
okay i'm going to play this one more

2626
01:55:03,109 --> 01:55:01,430
[Laughter]

2627
01:55:05,350 --> 01:55:03,119
well that

2628
01:55:07,589 --> 01:55:05,360
definitely is are you scared to meet

2629
01:55:13,109 --> 01:55:07,599
christ okay i'm gonna play this one more

2630
01:55:18,470 --> 01:55:16,149
okay all right all right um

2631
01:55:20,310 --> 01:55:18,480
when and where what's what's

2632
01:55:22,550 --> 01:55:20,320
what's the story with this

2633
01:55:26,709 --> 01:55:22,560
3 a.m in the morning

2634
01:55:28,390 --> 01:55:26,719
the la pasada hotel in winslow arizona

2635
01:55:31,270 --> 01:55:28,400
we were

2636
01:55:34,470 --> 01:55:31,280
wandering around the entire hotel late

2637
01:55:36,950 --> 01:55:34,480
at night there was no one awake there

2638
01:55:40,229 --> 01:55:36,960
was no one even in the hotel except for

2639
01:55:42,550 --> 01:55:40,239
the front desk which was probably

2640
01:55:44,629 --> 01:55:42,560
400 500 feet

2641
01:55:46,790 --> 01:55:44,639
away from us

2642
01:55:47,750 --> 01:55:46,800
and sheree and i are in there

2643
01:55:49,510 --> 01:55:47,760
and

2644
01:55:52,070 --> 01:55:49,520
i don't even remember what i asked

2645
01:55:54,629 --> 01:55:52,080
because it wasn't even relevant but when

2646
01:55:56,629 --> 01:55:54,639
i remember playing that back going did i

2647
01:55:59,750 --> 01:55:56,639
just hear what i think i heard did he

2648
01:56:02,070 --> 01:55:59,760
just say are you scared to meet christ

2649
01:56:03,750 --> 01:56:02,080
which is just the strangest evp i've

2650
01:56:05,270 --> 01:56:03,760
ever heard and then the other thing that

2651
01:56:08,070 --> 01:56:05,280
crossed my mind is

2652
01:56:10,709 --> 01:56:08,080
is he asking me now i mean is he gonna

2653
01:56:11,589 --> 01:56:10,719
am i gonna meet him now is he gonna kill

2654
01:56:13,350 --> 01:56:11,599
me

2655
01:56:15,589 --> 01:56:13,360
what what kind of you know and i'm

2656
01:56:17,030 --> 01:56:15,599
thinking okay was that just a a generic

2657
01:56:19,109 --> 01:56:17,040
question are you scared to meet him

2658
01:56:20,310 --> 01:56:19,119
eventually are you are you scared

2659
01:56:21,589 --> 01:56:20,320
because you're going to meet him in two

2660
01:56:23,109 --> 01:56:21,599
minutes i mean

2661
01:56:25,750 --> 01:56:23,119
it was just

2662
01:56:28,070 --> 01:56:25,760
and it's so clear it it just was

2663
01:56:30,550 --> 01:56:28,080
shocking it really clear sheree is there

2664
01:56:34,390 --> 01:56:30,560
any history to the posada and and

2665
01:56:37,270 --> 01:56:34,400
religion or with somebody there

2666
01:56:39,589 --> 01:56:37,280
that you could tie this to it was

2667
01:56:41,350 --> 01:56:39,599
yeah actually it was just my first time

2668
01:56:44,709 --> 01:56:41,360
going there and

2669
01:56:46,229 --> 01:56:44,719
and i don't really know the history of

2670
01:56:48,550 --> 01:56:46,239
that hotel

2671
01:56:51,030 --> 01:56:48,560
but when we after

2672
01:56:53,430 --> 01:56:51,040
after we um investigate over there

2673
01:56:55,669 --> 01:56:53,440
actually there's something happened

2674
01:56:57,189 --> 01:56:55,679
really bad when we did the investigation

2675
01:57:00,310 --> 01:56:57,199
we are

2676
01:57:02,790 --> 01:57:00,320
we're very new we were new we were so

2677
01:57:05,109 --> 01:57:02,800
new and we are

2678
01:57:07,030 --> 01:57:05,119
stupid

2679
01:57:10,629 --> 01:57:07,040
i am probably

2680
01:57:13,589 --> 01:57:10,639
and we're we don't know anything

2681
01:57:16,229 --> 01:57:13,599
so much about investigation and then

2682
01:57:18,390 --> 01:57:16,239
we went to a location that we didn't

2683
01:57:21,430 --> 01:57:18,400
even know that it's

2684
01:57:24,709 --> 01:57:21,440
very very very active

2685
01:57:26,229 --> 01:57:24,719
so that night i think i know the reason

2686
01:57:28,870 --> 01:57:26,239
why that

2687
01:57:30,070 --> 01:57:28,880
spirit says are you afraid to meet

2688
01:57:33,189 --> 01:57:30,080
christ

2689
01:57:36,070 --> 01:57:33,199
and why why he

2690
01:57:38,950 --> 01:57:36,080
i i thought tony is gonna i'm gonna lose

2691
01:57:40,709 --> 01:57:38,960
tony that night yeah she

2692
01:57:43,030 --> 01:57:40,719
she unfortunate

2693
01:57:44,790 --> 01:57:43,040
the the hotel's got underground tunnels

2694
01:57:46,470 --> 01:57:44,800
that used to run

2695
01:57:48,950 --> 01:57:46,480
underneath city

2696
01:57:49,910 --> 01:57:48,960
well we got access to them

2697
01:57:51,910 --> 01:57:49,920
and

2698
01:57:54,709 --> 01:57:51,920
through their basement now most of them

2699
01:57:56,629 --> 01:57:54,719
are blocked they only go back so far

2700
01:57:58,310 --> 01:57:56,639
but there was so much activity down

2701
01:58:00,790 --> 01:57:58,320
there

2702
01:58:02,229 --> 01:58:00,800
shadow figures voices we could hear with

2703
01:58:07,589 --> 01:58:02,239
our own ears

2704
01:58:09,830 --> 01:58:07,599
evp after evp after evp well cherie said

2705
01:58:12,550 --> 01:58:09,840
i want to see you move an object if you

2706
01:58:14,070 --> 01:58:12,560
don't have enough energy you can use my

2707
01:58:16,629 --> 01:58:14,080
husband's

2708
01:58:19,350 --> 01:58:16,639
and that was the biggest mistake

2709
01:58:22,790 --> 01:58:19,360
she ever made because of what happened

2710
01:58:25,109 --> 01:58:22,800
that night yes and probably maybe i'm

2711
01:58:26,790 --> 01:58:25,119
i'm thinking oh my gosh my husband's

2712
01:58:29,189 --> 01:58:26,800
gonna die and

2713
01:58:30,310 --> 01:58:29,199
probably this spirit is saying are you

2714
01:58:31,990 --> 01:58:30,320
afraid to

2715
01:58:35,430 --> 01:58:32,000
meet christ

2716
01:58:38,310 --> 01:58:35,440
because i might have been connected yeah

2717
01:58:39,669 --> 01:58:38,320
you know it sounds uh

2718
01:58:40,870 --> 01:58:39,679
i'm going to play it one more time then

2719
01:58:42,629 --> 01:58:40,880
i'm going to tell you what i think it

2720
01:58:47,510 --> 01:58:42,639
sounds like all right here we go let's

2721
01:58:52,149 --> 01:58:49,830
that's a priest

2722
01:58:54,950 --> 01:58:52,159
it's got that tonality it's a priest

2723
01:58:57,109 --> 01:58:54,960
yeah yeah manner of speaking yeah

2724
01:58:59,669 --> 01:58:57,119
that's a dude with his bible open

2725
01:59:00,830 --> 01:58:59,679
looking at you

2726
01:59:08,870 --> 01:59:00,840
you

2727
01:59:10,070 --> 01:59:08,880
that's what i was thinking like now

2728
01:59:13,430 --> 01:59:10,080
what

2729
01:59:15,430 --> 01:59:13,440
that is uh that's a class a evp right

2730
01:59:17,990 --> 01:59:15,440
there let's take our break

2731
01:59:19,990 --> 01:59:18,000
tony and sheree rathman are with us i've

2732
01:59:23,189 --> 01:59:20,000
got a lot of vvps

2733
01:59:25,510 --> 01:59:23,199
we've got a lot of fun in front of us

2734
01:59:27,350 --> 01:59:25,520
entity voices paranormal investigations

2735
01:59:28,790 --> 01:59:27,360
tony and sheree rathman are with us i'm

2736
01:59:30,950 --> 01:59:28,800
your host jimmy church this is fade to

2737
01:59:34,030 --> 01:59:30,960
black stay with us we'll be right back

2738
01:59:35,170 --> 01:59:34,040
[Music]

2739
01:59:37,750 --> 01:59:35,180
[Applause]

2740
01:59:39,750 --> 01:59:37,760
[Music]

2741
01:59:44,850 --> 01:59:39,760
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2742
01:59:48,790 --> 01:59:46,390
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this is fade to black with jimmy church

2840
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on the game changer radio network

2841
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welcome back fade to black i'm nervous

2842
02:04:40,310 --> 02:04:38,320
to be church tonight tony and sheree

2843
02:04:42,790 --> 02:04:40,320
rathman are with us ghost hunting all

2844
02:04:45,510 --> 02:04:42,800
night long

2845
02:04:47,910 --> 02:04:45,520
and uh evps

2846
02:04:49,669 --> 02:04:47,920
i go back uh

2847
02:04:52,629 --> 02:04:49,679
you know what's funny with with all of

2848
02:04:55,510 --> 02:04:52,639
this and i i know i'm not planning a

2849
02:04:57,510 --> 02:04:55,520
flag here like i'm you know

2850
02:05:01,589 --> 02:04:57,520
coming up with something new

2851
02:05:03,750 --> 02:05:01,599
i go back to those early days of uh

2852
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art bell and coast to coast

2853
02:05:09,830 --> 02:05:07,840
and and listening uh to evps

2854
02:05:12,470 --> 02:05:09,840
you know at one o'clock in the morning

2855
02:05:13,990 --> 02:05:12,480
in the dark right it's just just like a

2856
02:05:15,350 --> 02:05:14,000
bad idea

2857
02:05:16,790 --> 02:05:15,360
and

2858
02:05:19,510 --> 02:05:16,800
um

2859
02:05:21,270 --> 02:05:19,520
uh i got so

2860
02:05:24,149 --> 02:05:21,280
into it and i see you know and it's

2861
02:05:27,109 --> 02:05:24,159
never changed i'm so fascinated with it

2862
02:05:29,589 --> 02:05:27,119
um and there were always two and i don't

2863
02:05:32,709 --> 02:05:29,599
know what's coming up here tonight so

2864
02:05:35,830 --> 02:05:32,719
uh don't spoil it okay but

2865
02:05:38,790 --> 02:05:35,840
but like kids children

2866
02:05:40,950 --> 02:05:38,800
messed with me messed with me there was

2867
02:05:42,390 --> 02:05:40,960
this melancholy

2868
02:05:45,270 --> 02:05:42,400
forlorn

2869
02:05:49,589 --> 02:05:45,280
thing about it right and it just

2870
02:05:53,030 --> 02:05:49,599
uh really messed with me but uh evps

2871
02:05:54,629 --> 02:05:53,040
and and the the process and the

2872
02:05:56,629 --> 02:05:54,639
environment and everything that is

2873
02:05:58,950 --> 02:05:56,639
around each one

2874
02:06:01,030 --> 02:05:58,960
adds to it right and

2875
02:06:03,510 --> 02:06:01,040
and i've just been fascinated with it so

2876
02:06:04,950 --> 02:06:03,520
let's go to the next uh let's see this

2877
02:06:06,149 --> 02:06:04,960
next one

2878
02:06:09,109 --> 02:06:06,159
uh is

2879
02:06:12,390 --> 02:06:09,119
uh called dishonor okay

2880
02:06:14,790 --> 02:06:12,400
uh what's the background behind this

2881
02:06:16,950 --> 02:06:14,800
well we were in the

2882
02:06:20,550 --> 02:06:16,960
hotel san carlos

2883
02:06:23,589 --> 02:06:20,560
uh in the basement and cherie literally

2884
02:06:24,750 --> 02:06:23,599
asked can you tell me your name

2885
02:06:26,310 --> 02:06:24,760
and this

2886
02:06:28,830 --> 02:06:26,320
creepy

2887
02:06:31,910 --> 02:06:28,840
what sounds like

2888
02:06:35,030 --> 02:06:31,920
a witch oh yeah

2889
02:06:38,229 --> 02:06:35,040
it's a woman and the way she says

2890
02:06:41,750 --> 02:06:38,239
dishonor and it is so clear

2891
02:06:43,350 --> 02:06:41,760
that um you you would swear that

2892
02:06:45,430 --> 02:06:43,360
somebody was standing next to us and

2893
02:06:47,910 --> 02:06:45,440
said it we were the only two we were the

2894
02:06:50,390 --> 02:06:47,920
only two allowed in the basement and the

2895
02:06:52,950 --> 02:06:50,400
door locked behind us you can get out

2896
02:06:55,750 --> 02:06:52,960
but nobody else can get in this voice is

2897
02:06:57,510 --> 02:06:55,760
so clear and so creepy but sheree says

2898
02:06:59,109 --> 02:06:57,520
something like are you is there are

2899
02:07:01,750 --> 02:06:59,119
there any spirits here can you tell

2900
02:07:04,149 --> 02:07:01,760
what's your name something like that and

2901
02:07:07,030 --> 02:07:04,159
then this voice shows up okay and these

2902
02:07:09,830 --> 02:07:07,040
are all done with the digital recorder

2903
02:07:19,990 --> 02:07:09,840
recorder okay all right here we go let's

2904
02:07:20,000 --> 02:07:31,270
are there anybody in here

2905
02:07:31,280 --> 02:07:42,149
can you say hello

2906
02:07:45,910 --> 02:07:43,669
that ain't right

2907
02:07:48,629 --> 02:07:45,920
no that's not right at all

2908
02:07:51,109 --> 02:07:48,639
we were listening to that driving home

2909
02:07:53,350 --> 02:07:51,119
so it played in the car and we both we

2910
02:07:55,430 --> 02:07:53,360
had to pull the car over we're like what

2911
02:07:56,390 --> 02:07:55,440
was that there's no way we just heard

2912
02:08:01,030 --> 02:07:56,400
that

2913
02:08:08,550 --> 02:08:03,830
can you say hello

2914
02:08:14,229 --> 02:08:11,030
what kind of accent is that

2915
02:08:17,350 --> 02:08:14,239
i have no idea it reminds me of the

2916
02:08:19,910 --> 02:08:17,360
witch from snow white that is who i

2917
02:08:22,709 --> 02:08:19,920
picture when i hear that voice i'm

2918
02:08:25,350 --> 02:08:22,719
thinking uh wizard of oz i'm i'm going a

2919
02:08:27,510 --> 02:08:25,360
stage uh stage creepier

2920
02:08:30,390 --> 02:08:27,520
um okay let's let's

2921
02:08:32,229 --> 02:08:30,400
let's play this again that's that that's

2922
02:08:35,669 --> 02:08:32,239
awesome right there

2923
02:08:41,430 --> 02:08:35,679
it's it's the way she says the r

2924
02:08:46,870 --> 02:08:44,310
can you say hello

2925
02:08:48,390 --> 02:08:46,880
just honor

2926
02:08:50,950 --> 02:08:48,400
dishonor

2927
02:08:53,350 --> 02:08:50,960
um you guys are alone

2928
02:08:54,470 --> 02:08:53,360
right yeah that's in the basement yeah

2929
02:08:55,910 --> 02:08:54,480
we're alone

2930
02:08:57,990 --> 02:08:55,920
just the two of us

2931
02:08:58,640 --> 02:08:58,000
sheree what'd you do to uh make her so

2932
02:09:00,629 --> 02:08:58,650
mad

2933
02:09:04,629 --> 02:09:00,639
[Laughter]

2934
02:09:07,510 --> 02:09:04,639
i don't know and it feels like

2935
02:09:09,350 --> 02:09:07,520
the this thing this entity is like

2936
02:09:12,550 --> 02:09:09,360
standing next to me it's very close to

2937
02:09:15,589 --> 02:09:12,560
the recorder like it you can hear it's

2938
02:09:18,069 --> 02:09:15,599
very very clear what you're asking me if

2939
02:09:19,910 --> 02:09:18,079
somebody if if i

2940
02:09:21,510 --> 02:09:19,920
move something or when to hit your hair

2941
02:09:25,109 --> 02:09:21,520
because you're here

2942
02:09:27,589 --> 02:09:26,390
not really

2943
02:09:30,069 --> 02:09:27,599
no

2944
02:09:31,830 --> 02:09:30,079
although that place is so freaky that

2945
02:09:33,669 --> 02:09:31,840
it's it's hard to

2946
02:09:36,069 --> 02:09:33,679
it's hard to tell because the whole

2947
02:09:38,069 --> 02:09:36,079
essence of that basement it's just an

2948
02:09:40,390 --> 02:09:38,079
overwhelming feeling of that they're

2949
02:09:42,470 --> 02:09:40,400
standing all around you so

2950
02:09:44,229 --> 02:09:42,480
i guess yes you could say

2951
02:09:46,069 --> 02:09:44,239
you feel a presence because

2952
02:09:48,709 --> 02:09:46,079
anytime you go down there it feels like

2953
02:09:49,750 --> 02:09:48,719
yeah you were you jumped when that thing

2954
02:09:50,629 --> 02:09:49,760
moves

2955
02:09:53,270 --> 02:09:50,639
oh

2956
02:09:55,830 --> 02:09:53,280
the pipes shook yeah yeah now uh but

2957
02:09:56,870 --> 02:09:55,840
here's here's the deal with this

2958
02:10:01,030 --> 02:09:56,880
um

2959
02:10:04,790 --> 02:10:03,910
because it's so loud and clear

2960
02:10:07,990 --> 02:10:04,800
yeah

2961
02:10:10,550 --> 02:10:08,000
that is that that is crazy that's well

2962
02:10:13,750 --> 02:10:10,560
okay that's another class a

2963
02:10:14,950 --> 02:10:13,760
uh evp you guys should uh call your

2964
02:10:17,589 --> 02:10:14,960
company

2965
02:10:20,149 --> 02:10:17,599
um oh you do you do you do call it

2966
02:10:22,950 --> 02:10:20,159
entity voices

2967
02:10:26,470 --> 02:10:22,960
that's crazy i mean it is perfectly

2968
02:10:28,790 --> 02:10:26,480
clear and that there's an accent there

2969
02:10:32,149 --> 02:10:28,800
and almost uh

2970
02:10:34,550 --> 02:10:32,159
well it's european i just can't put my

2971
02:10:36,149 --> 02:10:34,560
my finger on it but there's an accent

2972
02:10:39,430 --> 02:10:36,159
there's an accent

2973
02:10:40,470 --> 02:10:39,440
um and it's not really italian it's not

2974
02:10:42,629 --> 02:10:40,480
like

2975
02:10:45,510 --> 02:10:42,639
eastern i don't know i mean could it be

2976
02:10:46,229 --> 02:10:45,520
like romanian transylvania maybe

2977
02:10:54,229 --> 02:10:46,239
yeah

2978
02:10:56,550 --> 02:10:54,239
voice dishonor

2979
02:10:59,990 --> 02:10:56,560
dishonor wow that's crazy i don't know

2980
02:11:03,350 --> 02:11:00,000
why why he or she said this honor um am

2981
02:11:05,910 --> 02:11:03,360
i dishonored yeah yeah i did yeah yeah

2982
02:11:07,270 --> 02:11:05,920
you were definitely uh

2983
02:11:11,030 --> 02:11:07,280
uh

2984
02:11:14,069 --> 02:11:11,040
not you weren't making somebody happy no

2985
02:11:15,189 --> 02:11:14,079
you were not honoring witchcraft or

2986
02:11:18,790 --> 02:11:15,199
something

2987
02:11:21,350 --> 02:11:18,800
right oh man okay so uh this next one

2988
02:11:24,390 --> 02:11:21,360
don't stand there

2989
02:11:26,149 --> 02:11:24,400
um what's the story behind this phelps

2990
02:11:28,629 --> 02:11:26,159
dodge hospital

2991
02:11:31,270 --> 02:11:28,639
um there was a ton of activity that

2992
02:11:33,109 --> 02:11:31,280
night it felt like the hospital was

2993
02:11:34,550 --> 02:11:33,119
still active even though it had been

2994
02:11:35,430 --> 02:11:34,560
closed for

2995
02:11:39,750 --> 02:11:35,440
what

2996
02:11:42,709 --> 02:11:39,760
50 50 years uh 40 years

2997
02:11:43,830 --> 02:11:42,719
but i just felt like there were people

2998
02:11:45,910 --> 02:11:43,840
walking

2999
02:11:47,430 --> 02:11:45,920
all over the place so i turned my

3000
02:11:49,350 --> 02:11:47,440
recorder on

3001
02:11:51,589 --> 02:11:49,360
i didn't even say anything i'm just

3002
02:11:53,109 --> 02:11:51,599
showing down the hallway

3003
02:11:55,270 --> 02:11:53,119
and

3004
02:11:57,030 --> 02:11:55,280
that's what they say okay did you did

3005
02:11:57,990 --> 02:11:57,040
you ask a question

3006
02:12:04,370 --> 02:11:58,000
no

3007
02:12:04,380 --> 02:12:08,069
[Music]

3008
02:12:10,629 --> 02:12:09,669
don't stand there

3009
02:12:12,870 --> 02:12:10,639
right

3010
02:12:15,740 --> 02:12:12,880
and uh let's play this again that's uh

3011
02:12:22,310 --> 02:12:16,950
[Music]

3012
02:12:23,830 --> 02:12:22,320
yeah wow okay so were you

3013
02:12:24,950 --> 02:12:23,840
were you standing someplace that you

3014
02:12:27,109 --> 02:12:24,960
shouldn't have been

3015
02:12:29,750 --> 02:12:27,119
i was standing outside of the opera of

3016
02:12:33,030 --> 02:12:29,760
the main operating room

3017
02:12:35,830 --> 02:12:33,040
and and and again you did you didn't

3018
02:12:40,149 --> 02:12:35,840
hear this did not hear it

3019
02:12:42,629 --> 02:12:40,159
and uh again a weird accent too as well

3020
02:12:43,750 --> 02:12:42,639
and almost an echo which is yeah extreme

3021
02:12:45,750 --> 02:12:43,760
yes

3022
02:12:46,790 --> 02:12:45,760
okay that was my next point

3023
02:12:49,270 --> 02:12:46,800
uh

3024
02:12:52,600 --> 02:12:49,280
now that tony said that listen for that

3025
02:12:56,790 --> 02:12:54,629
[Music]

3026
02:13:00,390 --> 02:12:56,800
yeah um

3027
02:13:03,350 --> 02:13:00,400
almost uh facing you from yeah it also

3028
02:13:05,990 --> 02:13:03,360
sounds almost double voiced

3029
02:13:07,030 --> 02:13:06,000
like there's more than one voice saying

3030
02:13:07,910 --> 02:13:07,040
it

3031
02:13:16,370 --> 02:13:07,920
in

3032
02:13:17,750 --> 02:13:16,380
yeah that's that is awesome

3033
02:13:19,990 --> 02:13:17,760
[Music]

3034
02:13:21,669 --> 02:13:20,000
don't stand there clear as clear as a

3035
02:13:25,430 --> 02:13:21,679
bell

3036
02:13:28,229 --> 02:13:25,440
and uh uh again any background to this

3037
02:13:31,510 --> 02:13:28,239
now that you you know you hear this is

3038
02:13:34,310 --> 02:13:31,520
there any history of warnings

3039
02:13:37,030 --> 02:13:34,320
you know uh not to be there

3040
02:13:39,750 --> 02:13:37,040
well no not that i mean we ran that

3041
02:13:42,709 --> 02:13:39,760
hospital for almost four years right and

3042
02:13:44,550 --> 02:13:42,719
we're in there three four times a week

3043
02:13:46,470 --> 02:13:44,560
so we have more evidence from that

3044
02:13:47,750 --> 02:13:46,480
hospital probably than anybody on the

3045
02:13:50,550 --> 02:13:47,760
planet

3046
02:13:51,589 --> 02:13:50,560
um but some incredible stuff has gone on

3047
02:13:54,310 --> 02:13:51,599
in there

3048
02:13:56,790 --> 02:13:54,320
and we know that there we have

3049
02:13:59,589 --> 02:13:56,800
recordings of complete conversations

3050
02:14:01,750 --> 02:13:59,599
we've got recordings of people

3051
02:14:04,069 --> 02:14:01,760
what sounds like doctors screaming for

3052
02:14:07,669 --> 02:14:04,079
instruments to be brought to them we've

3053
02:14:10,629 --> 02:14:07,679
got evps of people screaming in pain

3054
02:14:13,510 --> 02:14:10,639
um and i think that was just a worker

3055
02:14:15,270 --> 02:14:13,520
saying i was right by the door they'd go

3056
02:14:17,109 --> 02:14:15,280
in and out they're probably like don't

3057
02:14:19,910 --> 02:14:17,119
don't stay you can't stand their body

3058
02:14:20,950 --> 02:14:19,920
move right right right right right right

3059
02:14:22,950 --> 02:14:20,960
wow

3060
02:14:24,790 --> 02:14:22,960
okay next up

3061
02:14:26,629 --> 02:14:24,800
i don't even like the title of this next

3062
02:14:29,270 --> 02:14:26,639
file

3063
02:14:30,629 --> 02:14:29,280
i am michael

3064
02:14:31,589 --> 02:14:30,639
oh

3065
02:14:33,589 --> 02:14:31,599
again

3066
02:14:35,030 --> 02:14:33,599
phelps dodge

3067
02:14:37,990 --> 02:14:35,040
we were in there

3068
02:14:40,550 --> 02:14:38,000
and chris asked if mary

3069
02:14:43,830 --> 02:14:40,560
another spirit that we had got the name

3070
02:14:45,109 --> 02:14:43,840
of she said my name is mary

3071
02:14:46,790 --> 02:14:45,119
or

3072
02:14:48,950 --> 02:14:46,800
chris asked what's your name she said

3073
02:14:52,229 --> 02:14:48,960
mary we were in there a couple days

3074
02:14:54,310 --> 02:14:52,239
later and chris was asking for mary and

3075
02:14:55,510 --> 02:14:54,320
this is what the response came back on

3076
02:14:56,550 --> 02:14:55,520
the evp

3077
02:14:58,470 --> 02:14:56,560
again

3078
02:15:01,510 --> 02:14:58,480
you didn't hear it

3079
02:15:02,950 --> 02:15:01,520
nope you just captured it correct okay

3080
02:15:06,069 --> 02:15:02,960
here we go

3081
02:15:13,189 --> 02:15:06,079
i am michael

3082
02:15:13,199 --> 02:15:17,750
mary are you in here again

3083
02:15:21,109 --> 02:15:19,990
okay so that's a whisper

3084
02:15:23,750 --> 02:15:21,119
yeah

3085
02:15:29,430 --> 02:15:23,760
that's a whisper and uh

3086
02:15:32,629 --> 02:15:30,950
[Applause]

3087
02:15:35,430 --> 02:15:32,639
yeah

3088
02:15:39,270 --> 02:15:35,440
okay what's the

3089
02:15:43,030 --> 02:15:40,709
what's the question

3090
02:15:45,589 --> 02:15:43,040
he asked mary are you in here again

3091
02:15:47,669 --> 02:15:45,599
because a couple days prior

3092
02:15:49,350 --> 02:15:47,679
he asked

3093
02:15:50,870 --> 02:15:49,360
he he knew there was a spirit there he

3094
02:15:53,109 --> 02:15:50,880
said what's your name

3095
02:15:55,189 --> 02:15:53,119
she said i she said mary

3096
02:15:58,149 --> 02:15:55,199
we came back a couple days later he went

3097
02:16:00,550 --> 02:15:58,159
to the same room or same hallway said

3098
02:16:02,870 --> 02:16:00,560
mary are you in here again

3099
02:16:04,709 --> 02:16:02,880
and that's when we got michael's voice

3100
02:16:09,400 --> 02:16:04,719
okay now now

3101
02:16:11,830 --> 02:16:10,709
[Applause]

3102
02:16:16,709 --> 02:16:11,840
okay

3103
02:16:19,510 --> 02:16:16,719
other level of scary

3104
02:16:22,229 --> 02:16:19,520
now i know the question right mary right

3105
02:16:27,190 --> 02:16:22,239
and you hear it right there in the front

3106
02:16:32,150 --> 02:16:28,950
[Applause]

3107
02:16:34,150 --> 02:16:32,160
i am michael

3108
02:16:36,469 --> 02:16:34,160
wow

3109
02:16:39,750 --> 02:16:36,479
what's your reaction to that

3110
02:16:40,870 --> 02:16:39,760
well we are amazed that he gave us his

3111
02:16:44,070 --> 02:16:40,880
name

3112
02:16:47,110 --> 02:16:44,080
but he did so much more after that i

3113
02:16:49,110 --> 02:16:47,120
mean we were shocked that he actually

3114
02:16:51,750 --> 02:16:49,120
because we were asking for mary who did

3115
02:16:53,110 --> 02:16:51,760
give us her name and then to get another

3116
02:16:55,669 --> 02:16:53,120
spirit say

3117
02:16:58,309 --> 02:16:55,679
i am michael meaning not mary you're

3118
02:17:01,830 --> 02:16:58,319
asking for mary i'm michael michael was

3119
02:17:03,270 --> 02:17:01,840
here yeah probably michael showed up

3120
02:17:05,030 --> 02:17:03,280
oh my gosh

3121
02:17:05,830 --> 02:17:05,040
every time we went in there he'd answer

3122
02:17:08,629 --> 02:17:05,840
us

3123
02:17:09,990 --> 02:17:08,639
he followed chris and audra down to

3124
02:17:13,830 --> 02:17:10,000
tombstone

3125
02:17:15,750 --> 02:17:13,840
he followed us to the philippines we

3126
02:17:18,870 --> 02:17:15,760
have his voice

3127
02:17:20,870 --> 02:17:18,880
with sheree asking if the spirits will

3128
02:17:24,230 --> 02:17:20,880
communicate with us

3129
02:17:25,589 --> 02:17:24,240
michael says i can help you same voice

3130
02:17:27,910 --> 02:17:25,599
yeah

3131
02:17:30,549 --> 02:17:27,920
and that's the world have you found out

3132
02:17:34,709 --> 02:17:30,559
who michael is

3133
02:17:38,070 --> 02:17:34,719
we try we we tried um we actually think

3134
02:17:41,589 --> 02:17:38,080
his last name might be olson yeah and in

3135
02:17:42,790 --> 02:17:41,599
the town the the name olson was huge and

3136
02:17:48,549 --> 02:17:42,800
there were

3137
02:17:50,629 --> 02:17:48,559
patients and as employees in the

3138
02:17:52,150 --> 02:17:50,639
hospital so we haven't been able to

3139
02:17:54,629 --> 02:17:52,160
narrow it past that because it was a

3140
02:17:58,309 --> 02:17:54,639
hospital so records are not available to

3141
02:18:01,669 --> 02:17:58,319
go through um but that's who we think it

3142
02:18:02,469 --> 02:18:01,679
is but that's that's assumption wow

3143
02:18:05,349 --> 02:18:02,479
wow

3144
02:18:09,750 --> 02:18:05,359
question and answer i love it

3145
02:18:10,389 --> 02:18:09,760
uh i took the battery

3146
02:18:13,669 --> 02:18:10,399
i

3147
02:18:16,150 --> 02:18:13,679
so

3148
02:18:17,910 --> 02:18:16,160
cherise camera died

3149
02:18:19,429 --> 02:18:17,920
and um

3150
02:18:21,669 --> 02:18:19,439
she literally

3151
02:18:24,790 --> 02:18:21,679
we were having equipment after equipment

3152
02:18:26,950 --> 02:18:24,800
go out and not not something that's

3153
02:18:30,230 --> 02:18:26,960
normal i mean these were freshly charged

3154
02:18:32,309 --> 02:18:30,240
batteries or we just replaced them and a

3155
02:18:33,270 --> 02:18:32,319
couple minutes later the device would go

3156
02:18:35,190 --> 02:18:33,280
dead

3157
02:18:38,230 --> 02:18:35,200
so we're walking down the hall and

3158
02:18:40,950 --> 02:18:38,240
sheree flat out asks are you draining

3159
02:18:42,870 --> 02:18:40,960
our batteries and this is the response

3160
02:18:44,549 --> 02:18:42,880
now what is it what is it with the

3161
02:18:45,990 --> 02:18:44,559
draining of batteries

3162
02:18:53,669 --> 02:18:46,000
it's energy

3163
02:18:55,110 --> 02:18:53,679
create other activity communicate

3164
02:18:57,750 --> 02:18:55,120
move things

3165
02:19:00,629 --> 02:18:57,760
um batteries are a great source for them

3166
02:19:03,190 --> 02:19:00,639
to to drain and to take now which one of

3167
02:19:05,509 --> 02:19:03,200
you is in charge of batteries

3168
02:19:08,629 --> 02:19:07,110
you have to stay on top of your game

3169
02:19:10,230 --> 02:19:08,639
right you can't be caught without

3170
02:19:12,709 --> 02:19:10,240
batteries and

3171
02:19:14,870 --> 02:19:12,719
and batteries are being drained all the

3172
02:19:17,030 --> 02:19:14,880
time right so obviously you've got

3173
02:19:19,509 --> 02:19:17,040
spares but you've got spares for the

3174
02:19:22,150 --> 02:19:19,519
spares you have to and spares for the

3175
02:19:23,669 --> 02:19:22,160
spares for the spares right and we

3176
02:19:25,910 --> 02:19:23,679
always we

3177
02:19:28,790 --> 02:19:25,920
bring we bring rechargeables as well

3178
02:19:31,429 --> 02:19:28,800
yeah we set them all up to charge even

3179
02:19:33,429 --> 02:19:31,439
when every battery is ready to go and

3180
02:19:35,509 --> 02:19:33,439
brand new because we know we're going to

3181
02:19:42,709 --> 02:19:35,519
cycle through them right

3182
02:19:42,719 --> 02:19:49,830
are you draining our batteries

3183
02:19:53,590 --> 02:19:51,590
okay that one's a little bit tougher to

3184
02:20:00,710 --> 02:19:53,600
hear let's hear this again

3185
02:20:05,510 --> 02:20:03,830
okay so that's open to interpretation

3186
02:20:08,550 --> 02:20:05,520
i took your batteries a little bit the

3187
02:20:10,070 --> 02:20:08,560
word battery to me is undeniable but

3188
02:20:12,469 --> 02:20:10,080
right but everybody's ears are different

3189
02:20:14,309 --> 02:20:12,479
so i agree that one's harder to hear

3190
02:20:15,830 --> 02:20:14,319
well that one's harder to i mean i can

3191
02:20:16,870 --> 02:20:15,840
hear

3192
02:20:23,670 --> 02:20:16,880
let's say

3193
02:20:28,230 --> 02:20:25,990
well i i hear i took

3194
02:20:30,950 --> 02:20:28,240
that that that battery would sound like

3195
02:20:32,150 --> 02:20:30,960
batteries yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah but

3196
02:20:32,870 --> 02:20:32,160
it definitely

3197
02:20:39,190 --> 02:20:32,880
says

3198
02:20:46,790 --> 02:20:42,830
yeah i took the batteries yeah wow

3199
02:20:47,990 --> 02:20:46,800
um uh that okay so

3200
02:20:50,389 --> 02:20:48,000
how

3201
02:20:52,550 --> 02:20:50,399
with something like that where there's

3202
02:20:54,710 --> 02:20:52,560
an obvious response

3203
02:20:57,349 --> 02:20:54,720
how much cleanup do you have to do to

3204
02:20:59,429 --> 02:20:57,359
that file or is what we're listening to

3205
02:21:01,190 --> 02:20:59,439
the way it came through

3206
02:21:04,309 --> 02:21:01,200
there might be

3207
02:21:06,070 --> 02:21:04,319
a slight volume enhancement to it but

3208
02:21:08,070 --> 02:21:06,080
that's it yeah because that's what that

3209
02:21:11,349 --> 02:21:08,080
sounds like to me that's that's not

3210
02:21:13,590 --> 02:21:11,359
enhanced nope yeah that's uh that's the

3211
02:21:15,590 --> 02:21:13,600
reason i asked the question okay i don't

3212
02:21:18,230 --> 02:21:15,600
like the title to this next one either

3213
02:21:20,389 --> 02:21:18,240
but we're going to do it anyway

3214
02:21:22,230 --> 02:21:20,399
mama

3215
02:21:26,630 --> 02:21:22,240
you can answer that one

3216
02:21:30,630 --> 02:21:29,190
again which the one that you thought

3217
02:21:31,510 --> 02:21:30,640
it's the priest

3218
02:21:35,110 --> 02:21:31,520
is

3219
02:21:37,750 --> 02:21:35,120
um we were in the basement underground

3220
02:21:39,910 --> 02:21:37,760
tunnels underground tunnels and there is

3221
02:21:43,590 --> 02:21:39,920
a small um

3222
02:21:45,349 --> 02:21:43,600
opening it's uh i it's a tunnel and i

3223
02:21:46,469 --> 02:21:45,359
was going to

3224
02:21:49,429 --> 02:21:46,479
um

3225
02:21:52,230 --> 02:21:49,439
go there like crawl i told tony hey come

3226
02:21:53,510 --> 02:21:52,240
over here can i go over there in the

3227
02:21:56,389 --> 02:21:53,520
that tunnel

3228
02:21:57,349 --> 02:21:56,399
and so that's where

3229
02:21:59,190 --> 02:21:57,359
that

3230
02:22:02,070 --> 02:21:59,200
come here mama

3231
02:22:05,270 --> 02:22:02,080
so you had to it was too you couldn't

3232
02:22:07,910 --> 02:22:05,280
walk in you had to crawl in yeah it was

3233
02:22:09,990 --> 02:22:07,920
the only one can fit it was a smaller

3234
02:22:10,870 --> 02:22:10,000
opening like i said they blocked a lot

3235
02:22:12,710 --> 02:22:10,880
of the

3236
02:22:15,110 --> 02:22:12,720
tunnels or they collapsed in certain

3237
02:22:17,349 --> 02:22:15,120
areas so this was a much smaller opening

3238
02:22:19,270 --> 02:22:17,359
and sheree was gonna go in

3239
02:22:20,550 --> 02:22:19,280
and then as we were talking about and

3240
02:22:21,910 --> 02:22:20,560
discussing i'm like well if you get

3241
02:22:23,750 --> 02:22:21,920
trapped i don't know if i can get in

3242
02:22:26,469 --> 02:22:23,760
there to help

3243
02:22:28,710 --> 02:22:26,479
and yeah so he played back one of the

3244
02:22:30,950 --> 02:22:28,720
recorders and this is what was on it and

3245
02:22:33,349 --> 02:22:30,960
then sheree said i'm not going

3246
02:22:36,070 --> 02:22:33,359
oh oh so you didn't go

3247
02:22:38,309 --> 02:22:36,080
no tony doesn't want me to go vanda

3248
02:22:39,910 --> 02:22:38,319
you're crazy to even think about it so

3249
02:22:44,630 --> 02:22:39,920
if tony would have said yes you're

3250
02:22:47,030 --> 02:22:44,640
crawling i would oh man

3251
02:22:47,910 --> 02:22:47,040
not me no

3252
02:23:07,910 --> 02:22:47,920
no

3253
02:23:10,150 --> 02:23:07,920
okay

3254
02:23:12,230 --> 02:23:10,160
that's nuts

3255
02:23:14,309 --> 02:23:12,240
it's really fast too it's coming

3256
02:23:16,389 --> 02:23:14,319
everyone come here mama come here mama

3257
02:23:18,469 --> 02:23:16,399
that's crazy

3258
02:23:21,349 --> 02:23:18,479
but the fact that they knew she was a

3259
02:23:23,990 --> 02:23:21,359
mother i mean that yes why would you say

3260
02:23:25,670 --> 02:23:24,000
that i mean they they knew my kids call

3261
02:23:38,469 --> 02:23:25,680
me mama yeah

3262
02:23:41,990 --> 02:23:39,830
so

3263
02:23:43,670 --> 02:23:42,000
you're not if you

3264
02:23:46,630 --> 02:23:43,680
okay

3265
02:23:49,270 --> 02:23:46,640
look let's just be honest here if you

3266
02:23:51,030 --> 02:23:49,280
had heard that in front of all of this

3267
02:23:51,910 --> 02:23:51,040
you're not going in that tunnel number

3268
02:23:55,349 --> 02:23:51,920
one

3269
02:23:57,510 --> 02:23:55,359
right you're not going what made you

3270
02:23:59,429 --> 02:23:57,520
listen to this before you went into the

3271
02:24:01,590 --> 02:23:59,439
tunnel

3272
02:24:03,190 --> 02:24:01,600
because they were on we we realized they

3273
02:24:04,550 --> 02:24:03,200
were on

3274
02:24:07,190 --> 02:24:04,560
obviously i would have taken it with

3275
02:24:09,429 --> 02:24:07,200
their as well but because we were

3276
02:24:12,630 --> 02:24:09,439
we were having a conversation and when

3277
02:24:16,150 --> 02:24:12,640
we stopped talking that's what showed up

3278
02:24:19,990 --> 02:24:16,160
then sheree's like i think i'll pass

3279
02:24:21,429 --> 02:24:20,000
it it sounds now um it sounds like let's

3280
02:24:22,469 --> 02:24:21,439
go mama

3281
02:24:24,389 --> 02:24:22,479
is that

3282
02:24:26,630 --> 02:24:24,399
what do you guys hear

3283
02:24:29,030 --> 02:24:26,640
i think it's come here mama come here

3284
02:24:33,190 --> 02:24:29,040
mama

3285
02:24:44,389 --> 02:24:33,200
yeah yeah yeah okay i'm gonna play this

3286
02:24:48,710 --> 02:24:46,150
so

3287
02:24:50,710 --> 02:24:48,720
is it is it said twice

3288
02:24:53,110 --> 02:24:50,720
no i think cherie

3289
02:24:56,469 --> 02:24:53,120
said something at the end yeah that was

3290
02:24:58,950 --> 02:24:56,479
me okay okay so we have let's go mama

3291
02:25:04,790 --> 02:24:58,960
come here my what that man

3292
02:25:13,030 --> 02:25:06,710
yeah

3293
02:25:16,950 --> 02:25:13,040
after

3294
02:25:20,469 --> 02:25:16,960
it right

3295
02:25:22,710 --> 02:25:20,479
yeah it sounds like you said let's go

3296
02:25:24,469 --> 02:25:22,720
mama it's your voice

3297
02:25:26,950 --> 02:25:24,479
the second time

3298
02:25:29,830 --> 02:25:26,960
sherry don't look at me like

3299
02:25:31,990 --> 02:25:29,840
you can't hear this

3300
02:25:33,910 --> 02:25:32,000
i was trying to she's she's looking at

3301
02:25:36,469 --> 02:25:33,920
me like church what are you talking oh i

3302
02:25:39,429 --> 02:25:36,479
didn't you no cause the camera is over

3303
02:25:41,270 --> 02:25:39,439
here i'm like oh yeah okay all right all

3304
02:25:52,630 --> 02:25:41,280
right cover your tracks let's listen to

3305
02:25:56,550 --> 02:25:54,790
oh okay you don't say mama there you say

3306
02:25:58,630 --> 02:25:56,560
something else i think i said i don't

3307
02:26:01,349 --> 02:25:58,640
know yeah yeah that's the second one's

3308
02:26:02,630 --> 02:26:01,359
definitely true yeah yeah

3309
02:26:05,590 --> 02:26:02,640
yeah okay

3310
02:26:08,070 --> 02:26:05,600
all right that's creepy

3311
02:26:10,150 --> 02:26:08,080
i think it says if it's not come here

3312
02:26:12,550 --> 02:26:10,160
mama or i'm here mama

3313
02:26:13,750 --> 02:26:12,560
yeah yeah yeah one of them

3314
02:26:16,469 --> 02:26:13,760
um

3315
02:26:17,750 --> 02:26:16,479
now i don't know uh

3316
02:26:19,910 --> 02:26:17,760
okay we're gonna have to go into

3317
02:26:21,910 --> 02:26:19,920
overtime tonight um i'm looking at the

3318
02:26:22,870 --> 02:26:21,920
clock and we still have one two three

3319
02:26:26,389 --> 02:26:22,880
we've got

3320
02:26:28,710 --> 02:26:26,399
uh five or six what what

3321
02:26:30,630 --> 02:26:28,720
oh i was pointing at the camera because

3322
02:26:32,710 --> 02:26:30,640
i was doing this because i was looking

3323
02:26:34,870 --> 02:26:32,720
in here this is the team she's having

3324
02:26:35,750 --> 02:26:34,880
too much fun tony she's having too much

3325
02:26:40,550 --> 02:26:35,760
fun

3326
02:26:41,670 --> 02:26:40,560
cover here tonight so

3327
02:26:42,950 --> 02:26:41,680
uh

3328
02:26:45,030 --> 02:26:42,960
we're gonna i'm gonna have to hold you

3329
02:26:47,670 --> 02:26:45,040
over for another 20 minutes you guys

3330
02:26:49,750 --> 02:26:47,680
cool with that okay oh yeah let's uh

3331
02:26:51,349 --> 02:26:49,760
let's

3332
02:26:52,950 --> 02:26:51,359
this next one

3333
02:26:53,830 --> 02:26:52,960
um

3334
02:26:55,830 --> 02:26:53,840
is

3335
02:26:56,550 --> 02:26:55,840
gestapo

3336
02:26:59,429 --> 02:26:56,560
now

3337
02:27:03,429 --> 02:26:59,439
that that right there is is just freaky

3338
02:27:04,710 --> 02:27:03,439
is is is gestapo said in this

3339
02:27:07,830 --> 02:27:04,720
evp

3340
02:27:09,910 --> 02:27:07,840
yes okay what's the story behind this

3341
02:27:11,030 --> 02:27:09,920
well again this is the phelps dodge

3342
02:27:14,150 --> 02:27:11,040
hospital

3343
02:27:15,750 --> 02:27:14,160
now you gotta remember that half the

3344
02:27:18,950 --> 02:27:15,760
the hospital was

3345
02:27:21,190 --> 02:27:18,960
built by the courtney uh new cornelia

3346
02:27:23,750 --> 02:27:21,200
mining company then bought by the phelps

3347
02:27:25,750 --> 02:27:23,760
dodge the hospital was put there

3348
02:27:28,070 --> 02:27:25,760
strictly and solely

3349
02:27:30,710 --> 02:27:28,080
to support the miners who got hurt

3350
02:27:31,910 --> 02:27:30,720
working in the open pit mine and their

3351
02:27:34,070 --> 02:27:31,920
families

3352
02:27:36,550 --> 02:27:34,080
so

3353
02:27:39,990 --> 02:27:36,560
you had people that came from

3354
02:27:42,389 --> 02:27:40,000
all over the world um usually alone

3355
02:27:44,469 --> 02:27:42,399
because most of the bodies that had

3356
02:27:47,429 --> 02:27:44,479
passed in the hospital there were no

3357
02:27:48,710 --> 02:27:47,439
family members even around to give the

3358
02:27:49,750 --> 02:27:48,720
bodies to

3359
02:27:52,389 --> 02:27:49,760
but

3360
02:27:53,990 --> 02:27:52,399
these are they're strange accents here

3361
02:27:54,950 --> 02:27:54,000
so i don't know

3362
02:27:58,469 --> 02:27:54,960
um

3363
02:28:01,590 --> 02:27:58,479
what accent or what country but just a

3364
02:28:04,230 --> 02:28:01,600
word like gestapo i mean that kind of

3365
02:28:07,630 --> 02:28:04,240
helps identify region

3366
02:28:11,590 --> 02:28:07,640
um but when did the hospital close

3367
02:28:15,910 --> 02:28:11,600
1986 was the last year it was open it

3368
02:28:19,190 --> 02:28:15,920
started in 1919 and ran to 1986. so it

3369
02:28:23,790 --> 02:28:19,200
was open during world war ii oh yes okay

3370
02:28:23,800 --> 02:28:40,230
[Music]

3371
02:28:43,910 --> 02:28:42,070
okay um

3372
02:28:45,429 --> 02:28:43,920
i think we need to listen to this some

3373
02:28:48,710 --> 02:28:45,439
more after the break

3374
02:28:50,950 --> 02:28:48,720
there's a there's a few words there

3375
02:28:52,830 --> 02:28:50,960
there are and there's other voices in

3376
02:28:59,400 --> 02:28:52,840
the background it is

3377
02:28:59,410 --> 02:29:14,469
[Music]

3378
02:29:19,750 --> 02:29:16,950
okay man that's a freaking ghost

3379
02:29:21,429 --> 02:29:19,760
yeah that's like creepy

3380
02:29:31,110 --> 02:29:21,439
uh

3381
02:29:34,070 --> 02:29:31,120
yep and and that's crazy that's that's

3382
02:29:37,510 --> 02:29:34,080
that's scary that's not that's not funny

3383
02:29:39,590 --> 02:29:37,520
haha evp time no that's not let's go

3384
02:29:41,750 --> 02:29:39,600
mama you know that's

3385
02:29:44,150 --> 02:29:41,760
right that that is uh something else

3386
02:29:45,670 --> 02:29:44,160
going on uh all together

3387
02:29:47,910 --> 02:29:45,680
yeah

3388
02:29:49,670 --> 02:29:47,920
that's for sure that's for sure and you

3389
02:29:51,990 --> 02:29:49,680
know those are the ones that i find the

3390
02:29:53,750 --> 02:29:52,000
most intriguing and i know that you're

3391
02:29:56,230 --> 02:29:53,760
you're looking to take another break but

3392
02:29:58,469 --> 02:29:56,240
um that's why we were so fascinated with

3393
02:30:00,950 --> 02:29:58,479
evps because unlike any other piece of

3394
02:30:02,469 --> 02:30:00,960
equipment that a light lights up or it

3395
02:30:05,030 --> 02:30:02,479
plays music

3396
02:30:07,429 --> 02:30:05,040
there's so much involved in evp before

3397
02:30:10,070 --> 02:30:07,439
you even get to what's being said you

3398
02:30:12,389 --> 02:30:10,080
know whether it's male or female you

3399
02:30:14,230 --> 02:30:12,399
know whether it's an adult or a child

3400
02:30:16,870 --> 02:30:14,240
you know whether what language they're

3401
02:30:18,389 --> 02:30:16,880
speaking if there's an accent there is a

3402
02:30:20,070 --> 02:30:18,399
wealth of information you know their

3403
02:30:21,990 --> 02:30:20,080
emotional state whether they're happy

3404
02:30:22,870 --> 02:30:22,000
angry sad

3405
02:30:25,349 --> 02:30:22,880
um

3406
02:30:28,309 --> 02:30:25,359
you have all that information before you

3407
02:30:31,110 --> 02:30:28,319
even get to what they actually said

3408
02:30:33,349 --> 02:30:31,120
that to us is what drew us into the

3409
02:30:35,590 --> 02:30:33,359
spirit communication well it it's it's

3410
02:30:39,110 --> 02:30:35,600
um you're listening to

3411
02:30:40,710 --> 02:30:39,120
okay all of your points are are so valid

3412
02:30:42,950 --> 02:30:40,720
because

3413
02:30:45,910 --> 02:30:42,960
you can tie in

3414
02:30:48,070 --> 02:30:45,920
things you know like you said right male

3415
02:30:51,270 --> 02:30:48,080
female old young

3416
02:30:53,590 --> 02:30:51,280
uh sad happy it's a whole other thing

3417
02:30:56,309 --> 02:30:53,600
where you get gestapo

3418
02:30:58,309 --> 02:30:56,319
right well hold on a minute here

3419
02:31:00,630 --> 02:30:58,319
you know that's uh

3420
02:31:04,389 --> 02:31:00,640
that's that's not happy time

3421
02:31:06,870 --> 02:31:04,399
and and and that that voice is not

3422
02:31:09,910 --> 02:31:06,880
uh it's intimidating it's scary

3423
02:31:12,230 --> 02:31:09,920
it is it seems like it's angry angry it

3424
02:31:14,389 --> 02:31:12,240
was very authoritative very uh

3425
02:31:17,830 --> 02:31:14,399
like you guys aren't supposed to be here

3426
02:31:21,910 --> 02:31:20,230
scary yeah i almost hear the pacing of

3427
02:31:24,230 --> 02:31:21,920
the boots in the background

3428
02:31:25,429 --> 02:31:24,240
they are killing the girl tonight old

3429
02:31:28,550 --> 02:31:25,439
man

3430
02:31:29,750 --> 02:31:28,560
save her and signs the papers you know i

3431
02:31:34,550 --> 02:31:29,760
mean

3432
02:31:36,469 --> 02:31:34,560
sounds like wow man let's take our break

3433
02:31:39,110 --> 02:31:36,479
right here this is fade to black our

3434
02:31:41,270 --> 02:31:39,120
guest tonight tony and cherie rathman

3435
02:31:42,469 --> 02:31:41,280
entity voicemail's a paranormal

3436
02:31:45,030 --> 02:31:42,479
investigation

3437
02:31:46,150 --> 02:31:45,040
we've got some more uh evps to listen to

3438
02:31:48,630 --> 02:31:46,160
right after the break we're going to

3439
02:31:50,389 --> 02:31:48,640
head into overtime on the other church

3440
02:31:55,850 --> 02:31:50,399
this is fade to black stay with us we'll

3441
02:31:55,860 --> 02:32:00,870
[Music]

3442
02:32:00,880 --> 02:32:06,190
uh

3443
02:32:06,200 --> 02:32:20,790
[Music]

3444
02:32:24,469 --> 02:32:22,950
you're listening to jimmy church and

3445
02:32:29,510 --> 02:32:24,479
fade to black

3446
02:32:34,710 --> 02:32:31,830
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3447
02:32:39,030 --> 02:32:34,720
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3448
02:32:45,590 --> 02:32:41,510
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3449
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3450
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3454
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3455
02:33:05,990 --> 02:33:03,520
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3456
02:33:08,630 --> 02:33:06,000
ocean or from the mountains they always

3457
02:33:11,429 --> 02:33:08,640
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3458
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3459
02:33:15,830 --> 02:33:13,359
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3460
02:33:17,750 --> 02:33:15,840
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3461
02:33:20,230 --> 02:33:17,760
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3462
02:33:22,230 --> 02:33:20,240
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3463
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3464
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3476
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3542
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3543
02:37:25,510 --> 02:37:20,780
[Music]

3544
02:37:28,070 --> 02:37:25,520
welcome back paid to black overtime tony

3545
02:37:31,030 --> 02:37:28,080
and sheree rathman entity voices

3546
02:37:32,790 --> 02:37:31,040
paranormal investigations

3547
02:37:35,030 --> 02:37:32,800
we're going through some evps tonight

3548
02:37:37,270 --> 02:37:35,040
but i would say that uh the votes are in

3549
02:37:40,870 --> 02:37:37,280
on that last one that that one wasn't

3550
02:37:45,830 --> 02:37:43,590
that one was sending a message uh that

3551
02:37:49,349 --> 02:37:45,840
that that was that was creepy that was

3552
02:37:50,790 --> 02:37:49,359
creepy um what what is before we get to

3553
02:37:52,230 --> 02:37:50,800
the rest of these what are you guys

3554
02:37:54,790 --> 02:37:52,240
doing next what's your next

3555
02:37:56,550 --> 02:37:54,800
investigation

3556
02:38:00,150 --> 02:37:56,560
well let's see we got a couple of we got

3557
02:38:02,230 --> 02:38:00,160
a pair account coming up we've got um

3558
02:38:04,550 --> 02:38:02,240
we've got uh

3559
02:38:08,150 --> 02:38:04,560
oh yeah we're going to um trans

3560
02:38:11,349 --> 02:38:08,160
alligator trans allegheny uh in may

3561
02:38:14,070 --> 02:38:11,359
and then we're going to ohio i think

3562
02:38:18,710 --> 02:38:14,080
we're still trying to work out timing in

3563
02:38:21,190 --> 02:38:18,720
june it's an old um mortuary house

3564
02:38:22,630 --> 02:38:21,200
and we're going to

3565
02:38:26,830 --> 02:38:22,640
ourselves

3566
02:38:29,990 --> 02:38:26,840
tim woolworth um katie um

3567
02:38:32,070 --> 02:38:30,000
stafford ron and lourdes we're basically

3568
02:38:33,910 --> 02:38:32,080
going to have the how austin maynard

3569
02:38:35,510 --> 02:38:33,920
house is going to be wired

3570
02:38:38,150 --> 02:38:35,520
so that every room's got a different

3571
02:38:40,790 --> 02:38:38,160
device and made by a different person

3572
02:38:42,710 --> 02:38:40,800
or a different device and we're going to

3573
02:38:45,270 --> 02:38:42,720
literally bring the house to life from a

3574
02:38:47,910 --> 02:38:45,280
communication standpoint was it you that

3575
02:38:50,230 --> 02:38:47,920
showed me the tesla coils

3576
02:38:54,550 --> 02:38:50,240
yeah we had them there at the queen mary

3577
02:38:56,790 --> 02:38:54,560
yeah yeah um uh we'll talk about that at

3578
02:38:58,710 --> 02:38:56,800
another time but those are really cool

3579
02:38:59,120 --> 02:38:58,720
too as well um

3580
02:39:00,710 --> 02:38:59,130
uh

3581
02:39:02,469 --> 02:39:00,720
[Music]

3582
02:39:05,270 --> 02:39:02,479
wait a minute

3583
02:39:06,710 --> 02:39:05,280
did you say mortuary house

3584
02:39:08,550 --> 02:39:06,720
yeah it's just

3585
02:39:10,230 --> 02:39:08,560
it's a freestanding house but it was

3586
02:39:11,670 --> 02:39:10,240
used as uh

3587
02:39:13,830 --> 02:39:11,680
as a um

3588
02:39:16,309 --> 02:39:13,840
before i believe it's a mortuary it was

3589
02:39:18,469 --> 02:39:16,319
a mortuary before correct

3590
02:39:20,950 --> 02:39:18,479
it's a house not which this is just a

3591
02:39:22,870 --> 02:39:20,960
bad idea you guys

3592
02:39:25,990 --> 02:39:22,880
it's just a bad idea from the word go

3593
02:39:27,990 --> 02:39:26,000
whose idea who's brainiac

3594
02:39:31,270 --> 02:39:28,000
i picked the wrong word funeral home it

3595
02:39:32,710 --> 02:39:31,280
was a funeral even worse even worse

3596
02:39:35,750 --> 02:39:32,720
even worse

3597
02:39:37,990 --> 02:39:35,760
is this sheree is this your idea

3598
02:39:40,389 --> 02:39:38,000
no it's not i didn't even know that

3599
02:39:42,309 --> 02:39:40,399
we're going he just told me the things

3600
02:39:44,309 --> 02:39:42,319
just come flying at us when it comes to

3601
02:39:46,230 --> 02:39:44,319
the paranormal and anything i see that

3602
02:39:49,110 --> 02:39:46,240
i'm like you know what that sounds like

3603
02:39:52,950 --> 02:39:49,120
it'd be interesting we accept so this is

3604
02:39:54,309 --> 02:39:52,960
like six feet under but for real right

3605
02:39:59,910 --> 02:39:54,319
wow

3606
02:40:01,110 --> 02:39:59,920
after all right we will okay

3607
02:40:03,429 --> 02:40:01,120
uh

3608
02:40:04,830 --> 02:40:03,439
next up um

3609
02:40:07,670 --> 02:40:04,840
they came

3610
02:40:10,070 --> 02:40:07,680
here what's the story

3611
02:40:12,469 --> 02:40:10,080
phelps dodge again

3612
02:40:15,910 --> 02:40:12,479
or was that san carlos

3613
02:40:19,030 --> 02:40:15,920
i don't remember but we showed up

3614
02:40:21,670 --> 02:40:19,040
and we cherie starts her recorder even

3615
02:40:24,070 --> 02:40:21,680
before we show up i start mine the

3616
02:40:26,790 --> 02:40:24,080
second i walk through the threshold

3617
02:40:28,309 --> 02:40:26,800
and then these voices just showed up

3618
02:40:30,630 --> 02:40:28,319
they came here

3619
02:40:32,309 --> 02:40:30,640
um like they were surprised that we

3620
02:40:33,429 --> 02:40:32,319
actually showed up

3621
02:40:34,870 --> 02:40:33,439
um

3622
02:40:36,389 --> 02:40:34,880
and there's something else on there too

3623
02:40:38,309 --> 02:40:36,399
i can't remember that's what the title

3624
02:40:40,710 --> 02:40:38,319
was because that's the one that's the

3625
02:40:42,150 --> 02:40:40,720
most prominently heard uh but there's

3626
02:40:44,230 --> 02:40:42,160
something after it i can't remember what

3627
02:40:45,030 --> 02:40:44,240
it is on top of my head but it's just

3628
02:40:47,590 --> 02:40:45,040
this

3629
02:40:49,990 --> 02:40:47,600
surprised reaction like they came here

3630
02:41:01,429 --> 02:40:50,000
like they didn't expect us to

3631
02:41:07,349 --> 02:41:04,550
okay it's it's it's like twice

3632
02:41:09,830 --> 02:41:07,359
okay here we go

3633
02:41:11,910 --> 02:41:09,840
okay it says stop right there

3634
02:41:17,190 --> 02:41:11,920
okay

3635
02:41:18,870 --> 02:41:17,990
and

3636
02:41:20,950 --> 02:41:18,880
uh

3637
02:41:22,389 --> 02:41:20,960
that's a female voice out of the gate

3638
02:41:24,950 --> 02:41:22,399
they came here

3639
02:41:26,469 --> 02:41:24,960
yep and uh

3640
02:41:31,269 --> 02:41:26,479
so

3641
02:41:32,950 --> 02:41:31,279
picturing right there it's a group of

3642
02:41:35,349 --> 02:41:32,960
ghosts

3643
02:41:38,710 --> 02:41:35,359
talking to each other

3644
02:41:41,590 --> 02:41:38,720
right they are saying to

3645
02:41:43,830 --> 02:41:41,600
ghost partner they came here

3646
02:41:46,309 --> 02:41:43,840
right right they're not talking to you

3647
02:41:47,750 --> 02:41:46,319
no they're talking about they're talking

3648
02:41:49,269 --> 02:41:47,760
about you

3649
02:41:51,190 --> 02:41:49,279
right right

3650
02:42:02,630 --> 02:41:51,200
that's crazy town okay let me start this

3651
02:42:08,389 --> 02:42:06,550
okay so it's twice maybe three times

3652
02:42:10,480 --> 02:42:08,399
right

3653
02:42:12,309 --> 02:42:10,490
wow dude

3654
02:42:15,030 --> 02:42:12,319
[Laughter]

3655
02:42:18,389 --> 02:42:15,040
and you know what i notice when you're

3656
02:42:23,110 --> 02:42:18,399
when we're trying to investigate

3657
02:42:25,750 --> 02:42:23,120
it's it's easier for the spirits to

3658
02:42:27,349 --> 02:42:25,760
speak up when you're not really talking

3659
02:42:29,510 --> 02:42:27,359
to them like when you're asking a

3660
02:42:31,990 --> 02:42:29,520
question is there any spirits in here

3661
02:42:33,349 --> 02:42:32,000
they sometimes they won't answer but if

3662
02:42:35,750 --> 02:42:33,359
tony and i

3663
02:42:38,469 --> 02:42:35,760
are talking they will but they will

3664
02:42:40,389 --> 02:42:38,479
interject and say stuff

3665
02:42:42,230 --> 02:42:40,399
if we get better we've gotten our best

3666
02:42:45,429 --> 02:42:42,240
dvps when her and i are having a

3667
02:42:47,670 --> 02:42:45,439
conversation and literally in the

3668
02:42:51,269 --> 02:42:47,680
in the second or two that exists in

3669
02:42:53,750 --> 02:42:51,279
between me or her talking they'll leave

3670
02:42:57,030 --> 02:42:53,760
stuff on the recorder in between yeah

3671
02:42:59,030 --> 02:42:57,040
well it knows so this sounds uh you i

3672
02:43:01,190 --> 02:42:59,040
mean clearly in the front right is they

3673
02:43:03,990 --> 02:43:01,200
came here female voice and then the

3674
02:43:05,510 --> 02:43:04,000
second voice is female but it's not the

3675
02:43:07,670 --> 02:43:05,520
same voice

3676
02:43:10,710 --> 02:43:07,680
i think the second one is shari

3677
02:43:11,910 --> 02:43:10,720
no no no no no

3678
02:43:14,070 --> 02:43:11,920
you're in there

3679
02:43:20,070 --> 02:43:14,080
no you can hear sheree i'm talking about

3680
02:43:23,910 --> 02:43:21,190
right there

3681
02:43:26,309 --> 02:43:23,920
okay so there's actually three no

3682
02:43:28,870 --> 02:43:26,319
there's two they came here

3683
02:43:32,550 --> 02:43:28,880
and and the first one is clear the

3684
02:43:33,990 --> 02:43:32,560
second one is a different female voice

3685
02:43:36,389 --> 02:43:34,000
um

3686
02:43:38,150 --> 02:43:36,399
it sounds like they came here too

3687
02:43:40,710 --> 02:43:38,160
uh but uh

3688
02:43:51,110 --> 02:43:40,720
clearly it is

3689
02:43:55,670 --> 02:43:53,990
wow wow that's crazy town man

3690
02:43:58,150 --> 02:43:55,680
that's crazy town yeah they weren't

3691
02:43:59,750 --> 02:43:58,160
happy and so that was as soon as you

3692
02:44:01,349 --> 02:43:59,760
guys got there

3693
02:44:03,349 --> 02:44:01,359
second we walked in

3694
02:44:05,110 --> 02:44:03,359
wow man

3695
02:44:07,590 --> 02:44:05,120
that that first voice i mean it just

3696
02:44:10,150 --> 02:44:07,600
makes your hair stand up right i mean

3697
02:44:12,469 --> 02:44:10,160
it's it's it's just like right there

3698
02:44:15,190 --> 02:44:12,479
and again like i was saying before you

3699
02:44:17,110 --> 02:44:15,200
can sense emotion they were you can hear

3700
02:44:20,710 --> 02:44:17,120
the surprise factor in the voice they

3701
02:44:23,349 --> 02:44:20,720
came here like you know the the way the

3702
02:44:25,990 --> 02:44:23,359
the words roll off that sentence they

3703
02:44:29,429 --> 02:44:26,000
they came here with that emotional

3704
02:44:32,309 --> 02:44:29,439
impact to it almost almost pissed off

3705
02:44:34,469 --> 02:44:32,319
yeah yeah almost you know not not happy

3706
02:44:35,830 --> 02:44:34,479
oh man they came here

3707
02:44:36,790 --> 02:44:35,840
yeah um

3708
02:44:41,190 --> 02:44:36,800
wow

3709
02:44:44,950 --> 02:44:41,200
uh

3710
02:44:50,150 --> 02:44:48,070
what you want my name

3711
02:44:51,910 --> 02:44:50,160
and there's a bad word there i'm not

3712
02:44:53,990 --> 02:44:51,920
going to say the bad word

3713
02:44:55,830 --> 02:44:54,000
i want to hear the bad word i want the

3714
02:44:58,469 --> 02:44:55,840
audience to hear the bad word

3715
02:45:02,790 --> 02:44:58,479
okay uh where was this one

3716
02:45:05,590 --> 02:45:02,800
was captured at the hotel san carlos

3717
02:45:08,230 --> 02:45:05,600
and we never even thought about this

3718
02:45:09,269 --> 02:45:08,240
until one of our teammates chris pointed

3719
02:45:11,269 --> 02:45:09,279
it out

3720
02:45:13,429 --> 02:45:11,279
but the hotel san carlos had a

3721
02:45:15,670 --> 02:45:13,439
reputation when it was first built for

3722
02:45:17,110 --> 02:45:15,680
being very

3723
02:45:19,510 --> 02:45:17,120
discreet

3724
02:45:20,550 --> 02:45:19,520
and there was an underground tunnel that

3725
02:45:22,950 --> 02:45:20,560
led

3726
02:45:24,309 --> 02:45:22,960
well other places of the city in phoenix

3727
02:45:26,070 --> 02:45:24,319
too matter of fact when they put in the

3728
02:45:28,150 --> 02:45:26,080
light rail they hit it

3729
02:45:30,469 --> 02:45:28,160
trying to put it in the light rail and

3730
02:45:32,070 --> 02:45:30,479
and uh discovered it but there was a

3731
02:45:34,150 --> 02:45:32,080
tunnel that ran from the hotel san

3732
02:45:37,190 --> 02:45:34,160
carlos to the westward ho

3733
02:45:38,950 --> 02:45:37,200
and when um kennedy and marilyn monroe

3734
02:45:41,110 --> 02:45:38,960
would come to town one would stay at one

3735
02:45:43,269 --> 02:45:41,120
hotel the other at the other so they

3736
02:45:44,870 --> 02:45:43,279
looked like they were both alone

3737
02:45:46,630 --> 02:45:44,880
and could get together through that

3738
02:45:47,670 --> 02:45:46,640
underground tunnel

3739
02:45:50,150 --> 02:45:47,680
so

3740
02:45:52,150 --> 02:45:50,160
when i asked can you tell me your name

3741
02:45:54,630 --> 02:45:52,160
in the hotel san carlos i got this

3742
02:45:55,510 --> 02:45:54,640
surprised reaction which you're about to

3743
02:45:57,349 --> 02:45:55,520
play

3744
02:45:59,110 --> 02:45:57,359
and then chris said you know what that

3745
02:46:01,429 --> 02:45:59,120
hotel was known the fact that you're

3746
02:46:04,950 --> 02:46:01,439
asking their name is probably why you're

3747
02:46:11,670 --> 02:46:04,960
getting such a a strong response like

3748
02:46:11,680 --> 02:46:18,550
can you tell me your name

3749
02:46:20,950 --> 02:46:19,180
uh

3750
02:46:23,349 --> 02:46:20,960
[Applause]

3751
02:46:25,190 --> 02:46:23,359
you know what i almost said

3752
02:46:26,630 --> 02:46:25,200
um

3753
02:46:29,110 --> 02:46:26,640
what this is going to be marilyn

3754
02:46:31,030 --> 02:46:29,120
monroe's voice right

3755
02:46:33,590 --> 02:46:31,040
um could be

3756
02:46:35,750 --> 02:46:33,600
i hate to say it

3757
02:46:37,750 --> 02:46:35,760
okay so let's play this again

3758
02:46:45,349 --> 02:46:37,760
this is the first time i've heard it

3759
02:46:50,309 --> 02:46:46,790
okay so

3760
02:46:51,349 --> 02:46:50,319
the response is what you want my name

3761
02:46:53,030 --> 02:46:51,359
[\h__\h]

3762
02:46:55,670 --> 02:46:53,040
yep

3763
02:46:57,990 --> 02:46:55,680
is what you want my name

3764
02:47:04,710 --> 02:46:58,000
[\h__\h] yes

3765
02:47:04,720 --> 02:47:10,950
can you tell me your name

3766
02:47:14,550 --> 02:47:12,630
okay that

3767
02:47:16,150 --> 02:47:14,560
that's a female voice

3768
02:47:18,469 --> 02:47:16,160
right am i wrong

3769
02:47:22,870 --> 02:47:18,479
it could be it's a whisper so it's a

3770
02:47:25,429 --> 02:47:24,389
cheri what do you think is going on

3771
02:47:27,030 --> 02:47:25,439
there

3772
02:47:28,469 --> 02:47:27,040
you're you're a woman what's what's

3773
02:47:32,070 --> 02:47:28,479
happening

3774
02:47:33,670 --> 02:47:32,080
i don't know tony get all this weird

3775
02:47:36,150 --> 02:47:33,680
response

3776
02:47:38,469 --> 02:47:36,160
especially when he's asking

3777
02:47:41,190 --> 02:47:38,479
um can i get your name of course they're

3778
02:47:44,550 --> 02:47:41,200
gonna what do you want my name

3779
02:47:45,910 --> 02:47:44,560
i i don't know you could get all those

3780
02:47:48,230 --> 02:47:45,920
they were freaked out by it though

3781
02:47:50,630 --> 02:47:48,240
because we were we were inquiring into

3782
02:47:52,309 --> 02:47:50,640
their personal identity and like i said

3783
02:47:55,110 --> 02:47:52,319
the hotel was known for people to come

3784
02:47:57,429 --> 02:47:55,120
and go without questions asked right

3785
02:47:59,750 --> 02:47:57,439
and uh i was asking for a name that's a

3786
02:48:01,110 --> 02:47:59,760
definite whisper that's a whisper that's

3787
02:48:02,389 --> 02:48:01,120
not

3788
02:48:03,910 --> 02:48:02,399
right it's a whisper

3789
02:48:06,309 --> 02:48:03,920
and and

3790
02:48:08,389 --> 02:48:06,319
a whisper with attitude

3791
02:48:10,630 --> 02:48:08,399
with attitude exactly

3792
02:48:12,710 --> 02:48:10,640
man let's uh

3793
02:48:16,950 --> 02:48:12,720
it sounds like

3794
02:48:19,190 --> 02:48:16,960
younger female

3795
02:48:30,230 --> 02:48:19,200
yes let's play it again can you tell me

3796
02:48:37,670 --> 02:48:31,990
that is awesome

3797
02:48:39,910 --> 02:48:37,680
who was that who was that

3798
02:48:42,830 --> 02:48:39,920
man didn't tell you it's a it's a female

3799
02:48:44,230 --> 02:48:42,840
whisper right sheree is that a female

3800
02:48:47,030 --> 02:48:44,240
voice think it's a

3801
02:48:49,510 --> 02:48:47,040
younger female whisperer yeah it sounds

3802
02:48:51,510 --> 02:48:49,520
like it yeah yeah it it

3803
02:48:54,309 --> 02:48:51,520
wow you know over the year we've

3804
02:48:56,790 --> 02:48:54,319
investigated that place over 50 times

3805
02:48:59,670 --> 02:48:56,800
and every month or two

3806
02:49:02,550 --> 02:48:59,680
every name we knew would clear out and

3807
02:49:04,870 --> 02:49:02,560
we'd get brand new ones so there's some

3808
02:49:07,030 --> 02:49:04,880
sort of portal open in the basement

3809
02:49:09,030 --> 02:49:07,040
that's allowing them to come and go but

3810
02:49:11,190 --> 02:49:09,040
we would we would always get new names

3811
02:49:13,510 --> 02:49:11,200
so who that was i have no idea what it

3812
02:49:15,590 --> 02:49:13,520
is you you've mentioned these tunnels

3813
02:49:18,230 --> 02:49:15,600
i've never heard about this before uh

3814
02:49:20,230 --> 02:49:18,240
we've talked about this hotel before

3815
02:49:21,830 --> 02:49:20,240
um but this is the first time you've

3816
02:49:24,150 --> 02:49:21,840
told me about the tunnels the first time

3817
02:49:25,590 --> 02:49:24,160
that i i think that you've told me about

3818
02:49:28,550 --> 02:49:25,600
it what

3819
02:49:31,110 --> 02:49:28,560
what what's the purpose of those and

3820
02:49:31,830 --> 02:49:31,120
can anybody go into them

3821
02:49:37,190 --> 02:49:31,840
no

3822
02:49:38,070 --> 02:49:37,200
existed they were they were built when

3823
02:49:46,469 --> 02:49:38,080
the

3824
02:49:48,150 --> 02:49:46,479
alley

3825
02:49:50,230 --> 02:49:48,160
um

3826
02:49:52,309 --> 02:49:50,240
all sorts of different

3827
02:49:55,110 --> 02:49:52,319
rooms in fact

3828
02:49:58,389 --> 02:49:55,120
on um central avenue

3829
02:50:01,429 --> 02:49:58,399
there were these strange uh colored

3830
02:50:05,110 --> 02:50:01,439
um windows not windows but i guess like

3831
02:50:06,870 --> 02:50:05,120
colored floor plates in the sidewalk

3832
02:50:09,190 --> 02:50:06,880
and for years nobody could figure out

3833
02:50:11,750 --> 02:50:09,200
what they were while when they put the

3834
02:50:14,469 --> 02:50:11,760
light rail in and had to dig the road up

3835
02:50:17,269 --> 02:50:14,479
they hit the tunnel yeah those things

3836
02:50:20,710 --> 02:50:17,279
cemented into the sidewalk where to let

3837
02:50:22,309 --> 02:50:20,720
light skylights tunnel yeah skylights

3838
02:50:26,630 --> 02:50:22,319
they have that they have that up in

3839
02:50:28,790 --> 02:50:26,640
seattle uh have you been to old seattle

3840
02:50:30,230 --> 02:50:28,800
i i haven't it's on our bucket list

3841
02:50:32,630 --> 02:50:30,240
because there's a million places there

3842
02:50:35,510 --> 02:50:32,640
to check out the million

3843
02:50:37,429 --> 02:50:35,520
most people well if you're from seattle

3844
02:50:39,590 --> 02:50:37,439
you know uh the rest of the united

3845
02:50:43,990 --> 02:50:39,600
states not so much um

3846
02:50:46,950 --> 02:50:44,000
but uh seattle burnt down and they built

3847
02:50:49,110 --> 02:50:46,960
new seattle on top of top of it old

3848
02:50:52,630 --> 02:50:49,120
seattle right so it's like planet to the

3849
02:50:54,389 --> 02:50:52,640
apes man right and it's a whole city

3850
02:50:56,630 --> 02:50:54,399
under there and so

3851
02:50:59,510 --> 02:50:56,640
uh what they did like you're saying they

3852
02:51:02,710 --> 02:50:59,520
kept those shops open the store fronts

3853
02:51:06,710 --> 02:51:02,720
and things stayed open so how did they

3854
02:51:10,070 --> 02:51:06,720
put plate glass sidewalk

3855
02:51:12,870 --> 02:51:10,080
skylights in the sidewalk to let the

3856
02:51:15,510 --> 02:51:12,880
sunlight in to light up the sidewalk

3857
02:51:18,469 --> 02:51:15,520
that is underneath the sidewalk that's

3858
02:51:19,830 --> 02:51:18,479
there and the businesses stayed open

3859
02:51:22,469 --> 02:51:19,840
down there they eventually closed

3860
02:51:24,469 --> 02:51:22,479
everything down so you go

3861
02:51:27,269 --> 02:51:24,479
it's like um

3862
02:51:29,830 --> 02:51:27,279
uh the craziest dream that you could

3863
02:51:32,630 --> 02:51:29,840
have of something like this

3864
02:51:35,510 --> 02:51:32,640
but it being real is what it is you it's

3865
02:51:38,230 --> 02:51:35,520
like this can't be real and you go on

3866
02:51:40,630 --> 02:51:38,240
the tour and you walk down and you're

3867
02:51:44,070 --> 02:51:40,640
looking up you can see people walking

3868
02:51:46,710 --> 02:51:44,080
above you and you're on the sidewalk uh

3869
02:51:49,110 --> 02:51:46,720
down below uh with these uh storefronts

3870
02:51:51,510 --> 02:51:49,120
it's it's crazy so they did the same

3871
02:51:55,190 --> 02:51:51,520
thing in phoenix i did not know this

3872
02:51:57,349 --> 02:51:55,200
yeah winslow had it too yeah the longest

3873
02:51:59,030 --> 02:51:57,359
dino yeah they had tunnels that ran all

3874
02:52:01,110 --> 02:51:59,040
through the city and they used it so

3875
02:52:03,190 --> 02:52:01,120
they could you know transport alcohol

3876
02:52:04,469 --> 02:52:03,200
all sorts of other mischievous behaviors

3877
02:52:07,349 --> 02:52:04,479
that went on

3878
02:52:09,990 --> 02:52:07,359
um to be able to look like you went into

3879
02:52:11,590 --> 02:52:10,000
a respectable hotel and never came out

3880
02:52:13,590 --> 02:52:11,600
for the night but yet you could get

3881
02:52:15,750 --> 02:52:13,600
underground or you could end up in any

3882
02:52:20,150 --> 02:52:15,760
building you wanted to and no one would

3883
02:52:22,630 --> 02:52:20,160
know and and and and it's still there

3884
02:52:24,950 --> 02:52:22,640
parts of it man i want to check that out

3885
02:52:26,469 --> 02:52:24,960
if i come to phoenix can you can you get

3886
02:52:28,150 --> 02:52:26,479
me in there

3887
02:52:31,110 --> 02:52:28,160
most of it's been ripped up when they

3888
02:52:33,670 --> 02:52:31,120
put in the um the light rail they

3889
02:52:34,389 --> 02:52:33,680
literally hit it and that's how they

3890
02:52:36,790 --> 02:52:34,399
knew

3891
02:52:38,710 --> 02:52:36,800
all the external entrances that were

3892
02:52:41,670 --> 02:52:38,720
known to be able to get into it have

3893
02:52:44,630 --> 02:52:41,680
been blocked so the only place that

3894
02:52:47,269 --> 02:52:44,640
could probably still access whatever is

3895
02:52:49,830 --> 02:52:47,279
left of it would be what we believe to

3896
02:52:52,150 --> 02:52:49,840
be the opening in this san carlos

3897
02:52:54,550 --> 02:52:52,160
basement yeah and you can get me in

3898
02:52:56,389 --> 02:52:54,560
there right wink wink

3899
02:52:59,750 --> 02:52:56,399
yeah we probably could okay that's what

3900
02:53:00,630 --> 02:52:59,760
i'm talking about oh man i i i'm so

3901
02:53:03,590 --> 02:53:00,640
there

3902
02:53:06,870 --> 02:53:03,600
all right let's see next

3903
02:53:10,469 --> 02:53:06,880
okay this one's got your name in it

3904
02:53:11,429 --> 02:53:10,479
this one's got tony

3905
02:53:13,670 --> 02:53:11,439
that's

3906
02:53:15,349 --> 02:53:13,680
hotel san carlos

3907
02:53:16,469 --> 02:53:15,359
and uh

3908
02:53:18,070 --> 02:53:16,479
well yeah

3909
02:53:20,469 --> 02:53:18,080
i don't want to describe it play it and

3910
02:53:28,210 --> 02:53:20,479
then i'll i'll tell you what what the

3911
02:53:28,220 --> 02:53:34,070
[Applause]

3912
02:53:37,190 --> 02:53:35,429
okay i'm going to play this one more

3913
02:53:42,480 --> 02:53:37,200
time i'm going to tell you what i hear i

3914
02:53:42,490 --> 02:53:48,150
[Applause]

3915
02:53:52,630 --> 02:53:50,710
okay i hear

3916
02:53:55,269 --> 02:53:52,640
i hear

3917
02:53:56,870 --> 02:53:55,279
who's who's that

3918
02:53:59,269 --> 02:53:56,880
who's that tony

3919
02:54:00,150 --> 02:53:59,279
i i i can't make out the second half of

3920
02:54:06,630 --> 02:54:00,160
it

3921
02:54:08,070 --> 02:54:06,640
then a different voice says tony

3922
02:54:10,710 --> 02:54:08,080
and then

3923
02:54:13,990 --> 02:54:10,720
another voice that says our

3924
02:54:17,840 --> 02:54:14,000
friend yes okay okay let's listen okay

3925
02:54:17,850 --> 02:54:22,950
[Applause]

3926
02:54:29,670 --> 02:54:25,830
that's crazy man

3927
02:54:31,910 --> 02:54:29,680
that's crazy captured the first time

3928
02:54:34,710 --> 02:54:31,920
sheree and i had ever stepped foot into

3929
02:54:39,429 --> 02:54:34,720
the old phelps dodge hospital that was

3930
02:54:41,030 --> 02:54:39,439
captured via echovox which i had never

3931
02:54:43,670 --> 02:54:41,040
ever had

3932
02:54:46,550 --> 02:54:43,680
something come through that seemed to be

3933
02:54:48,389 --> 02:54:46,560
or makes sense and then after we caught

3934
02:54:50,230 --> 02:54:48,399
that the very first time we were in

3935
02:54:52,950 --> 02:54:50,240
there then we said okay we gotta get a

3936
02:54:56,309 --> 02:54:52,960
hold of this building this is nuts okay

3937
02:54:58,150 --> 02:54:56,319
i'm gonna play this again that is crazy

3938
02:55:01,190 --> 02:54:58,160
the the tony

3939
02:55:03,590 --> 02:55:01,200
the tony answer that that's that's nuts

3940
02:55:07,660 --> 02:55:03,600
man that's clear as can be yeah here we

3941
02:55:07,670 --> 02:55:11,750
[Applause]

3942
02:55:19,510 --> 02:55:14,790
our friend okay so you know what tony

3943
02:55:23,429 --> 02:55:21,190
now i'm gonna play it again everybody

3944
02:55:25,590 --> 02:55:23,439
does this sound like me i i'm listening

3945
02:55:27,750 --> 02:55:25,600
to my voice in the headphones

3946
02:55:30,469 --> 02:55:27,760
right as i'm speaking right now and i

3947
02:55:36,070 --> 02:55:30,479
listen to this

3948
02:55:36,080 --> 02:55:45,910
[Applause]

3949
02:55:51,030 --> 02:55:48,070
that's nuts man

3950
02:55:52,309 --> 02:55:51,040
um and our friend

3951
02:55:53,190 --> 02:55:52,319
uh

3952
02:55:59,349 --> 02:55:53,200
wow

3953
02:56:00,950 --> 02:55:59,359
that's class a all the way down the pike

3954
02:56:02,230 --> 02:56:00,960
who's that

3955
02:56:04,469 --> 02:56:02,240
tony

3956
02:56:05,670 --> 02:56:04,479
our friend

3957
02:56:08,950 --> 02:56:05,680
wow

3958
02:56:11,190 --> 02:56:08,960
night with

3959
02:56:13,190 --> 02:56:11,200
your right

3960
02:56:14,150 --> 02:56:13,200
okay what's up what what's happening

3961
02:56:17,830 --> 02:56:14,160
here

3962
02:56:20,469 --> 02:56:17,840
okay um this was with two of our

3963
02:56:23,670 --> 02:56:20,479
associates um chris all good audrey

3964
02:56:26,070 --> 02:56:23,680
keeler the four of us sheree and i

3965
02:56:27,349 --> 02:56:26,080
chris and uh audra were in the phelps

3966
02:56:29,750 --> 02:56:27,359
dodge

3967
02:56:31,510 --> 02:56:29,760
sheree and audra went to the other end

3968
02:56:34,469 --> 02:56:31,520
of the building they were nowhere near

3969
02:56:37,349 --> 02:56:34,479
us chris and i walked into the

3970
02:56:39,990 --> 02:56:37,359
second minor surgery room which has

3971
02:56:41,750 --> 02:56:40,000
bathrooms in the back

3972
02:56:43,030 --> 02:56:41,760
and chris said something like you'll

3973
02:56:44,309 --> 02:56:43,040
hear it on the recording he said

3974
02:56:45,269 --> 02:56:44,319
something like

3975
02:56:48,070 --> 02:56:45,279
uh

3976
02:56:49,349 --> 02:56:48,080
a minute ago i i got a giggle and i said

3977
02:56:51,910 --> 02:56:49,359
really

3978
02:56:52,830 --> 02:56:51,920
and then he stopped didn't say anything

3979
02:56:56,150 --> 02:56:52,840
and then he

3980
02:57:01,510 --> 02:56:56,160
says there's a woman in here and then

3981
02:57:03,990 --> 02:57:02,630
two minutes

3982
02:57:06,830 --> 02:57:04,000
i gotta giggle

3983
02:57:12,389 --> 02:57:06,840
really

3984
02:57:12,399 --> 02:57:22,790
there's a woman in here

3985
02:57:25,670 --> 02:57:23,990
oh

3986
02:57:28,070 --> 02:57:25,680
man

3987
02:57:31,110 --> 02:57:28,080
that sounds like angelic

3988
02:57:32,790 --> 02:57:31,120
there's yeah that's a good observation

3989
02:57:34,830 --> 02:57:32,800
okay here we go

3990
02:57:36,920 --> 02:57:34,840
i i'm jumping to the

3991
02:57:40,469 --> 02:57:36,930
end there's a woman in here

3992
02:57:41,830 --> 02:57:40,479
[Music]

3993
02:57:44,389 --> 02:57:41,840
what

3994
02:57:46,870 --> 02:57:44,399
yeah and he he nailed it by saying i had

3995
02:57:49,030 --> 02:57:46,880
no idea and i didn't none of us heard

3996
02:57:51,110 --> 02:57:49,040
that with our own ears but

3997
02:57:53,349 --> 02:57:51,120
immediately after he's done there's a

3998
02:57:56,950 --> 02:57:53,359
woman in here you're right and it's

3999
02:57:58,790 --> 02:57:56,960
female and that just was insane one more

4000
02:58:04,790 --> 02:57:58,800
time

4001
02:58:09,429 --> 02:58:07,750
that is nuts man

4002
02:58:11,190 --> 02:58:09,439
that is not

4003
02:58:14,309 --> 02:58:11,200
you guys are so good at what you do

4004
02:58:16,070 --> 02:58:14,319
you're so good um i can't wait to uh to

4005
02:58:18,230 --> 02:58:16,080
get you out here

4006
02:58:19,429 --> 02:58:18,240
uh well i don't know if i want to evp

4007
02:58:22,150 --> 02:58:19,439
the house though

4008
02:58:23,830 --> 02:58:22,160
i don't know i i don't know if i want we

4009
02:58:25,510 --> 02:58:23,840
won't we won't make you do anything you

4010
02:58:27,670 --> 02:58:25,520
don't want to but if you want to know

4011
02:58:30,150 --> 02:58:27,680
what's in there let us know where can

4012
02:58:32,950 --> 02:58:30,160
every okay so uh you're now with this

4013
02:58:35,429 --> 02:58:32,960
over here at uh the nx network and uh

4014
02:58:37,990 --> 02:58:35,439
what night are you on with us on mondays

4015
02:58:40,950 --> 02:58:38,000
we are monday night um

4016
02:58:42,309 --> 02:58:40,960
9 p.m eastern 6 p.m pacific

4017
02:58:44,950 --> 02:58:42,319
um

4018
02:58:46,790 --> 02:58:44,960
and uh if you're looking to see other

4019
02:58:49,190 --> 02:58:46,800
stuff we've done we've got an nc voices

4020
02:58:50,550 --> 02:58:49,200
paranormal investigations youtube

4021
02:58:53,269 --> 02:58:50,560
channel just about everything that's

4022
02:58:55,510 --> 02:58:53,279
worth looking at is there there's 350

4023
02:58:57,750 --> 02:58:55,520
some videos i think up there we have a

4024
02:58:59,990 --> 02:58:57,760
website entityvoices.com

4025
02:59:03,429 --> 02:59:00,000
feel free to check any of that out and

4026
02:59:05,349 --> 02:59:03,439
if if and if if somebody has got things

4027
02:59:07,670 --> 02:59:05,359
going on at the house can they reach out

4028
02:59:10,990 --> 02:59:07,680
to you would you guys absolutely we have

4029
02:59:13,269 --> 02:59:11,000
both email address contact

4030
02:59:15,590 --> 02:59:13,279
entityvoices.com on the website there's

4031
02:59:17,590 --> 02:59:15,600
phone numbers listed you can reach us

4032
02:59:20,469 --> 02:59:17,600
through our facebook pages

4033
02:59:22,630 --> 02:59:20,479
if you are having um

4034
02:59:25,429 --> 02:59:22,640
any type of activity or concerns about

4035
02:59:27,269 --> 02:59:25,439
anything paranormal um we've got

4036
02:59:31,830 --> 02:59:27,279
connections with other group members on

4037
02:59:34,309 --> 02:59:31,840
the east coast west coast um south east

4038
02:59:36,230 --> 02:59:34,319
um so one of us will be close enough to

4039
02:59:38,630 --> 02:59:36,240
be able to either get there or at least

4040
02:59:40,870 --> 02:59:38,640
recommend somebody if we if we can't

4041
02:59:43,269 --> 02:59:40,880
because it's too far

4042
02:59:44,950 --> 02:59:43,279
tony and cherie rathman another great

4043
02:59:48,070 --> 02:59:44,960
show thank you guys so much you're the

4044
02:59:49,750 --> 02:59:48,080
absolute very best and

4045
02:59:51,429 --> 02:59:49,760
i can't wait no we're going to get you

4046
02:59:53,349 --> 02:59:51,439
out here we're going to figure out

4047
02:59:54,870 --> 02:59:53,359
what's happening over here at casa de

4048
02:59:57,670 --> 02:59:54,880
church okay

4049
02:59:59,670 --> 02:59:57,680
sounds good jimmy yes jamie yeah thank

4050
03:00:03,269 --> 02:59:59,680
you you guys are the best thank you so

4051
03:00:05,030 --> 03:00:03,279
much and again it is entityvoices.com

4052
03:00:08,550 --> 03:00:05,040
and we have the links up uh on the

4053
03:00:09,990 --> 03:00:08,560
website and throughout social media i'm

4054
03:00:13,110 --> 03:00:10,000
your host jimmy church i want to remind

4055
03:00:16,710 --> 03:00:13,120
everybody tomorrow night right here live

4056
03:00:19,349 --> 03:00:16,720
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4057
03:00:21,190 --> 03:00:19,359
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4058
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4059
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4060
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4061
03:00:29,830 --> 03:00:27,840
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4062
03:00:31,830 --> 03:00:29,840
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4063
03:00:33,030 --> 03:00:31,840
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4064
03:00:35,910 --> 03:00:33,040
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4065
03:00:37,670 --> 03:00:35,920
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4066
03:00:40,070 --> 03:00:37,680
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4067
03:00:41,750 --> 03:00:40,080
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4068
03:00:43,269 --> 03:00:41,760
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4069
03:00:44,630 --> 03:00:43,279
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4070
03:00:46,230 --> 03:00:44,640
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4071
03:00:48,950 --> 03:00:46,240
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4072
03:00:50,469 --> 03:00:48,960
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4073
03:00:53,830 --> 03:00:50,479
night with fader night open lines all

4074
03:00:56,450 --> 03:00:53,840
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4075
03:01:04,840 --> 03:00:56,460
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